New left back in the summer

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[justintime]

I am really fed up with the medical team and it looks like ETH is also fed up with them. We would not be in this position if they were capable and Reguilon was sent back because they told him both full backs would be fit by end of January.

 

[Justin Cider]

God I hope so.

 

[Jayc1860]

Like your avatar, Justy.

 

[jsp]

What are they planning to do with the current ones?

Hard to see either of them leaving this summer.

 

[justintime]

We are getting too many injuries and that is on the medical team. I am sure that if we had Regulion we would have done better. Not much but he can put a decent cross in from the left. And to tell The Manager that they are sure that Shaw and Malacia would be fit by end of `January is not accepted.

 

[jsp]

Reguilon never looked fully fit to me and think even he missed a few games through injury as he'd not played that much over the last few seasons.

I'd say Dalot has looked much better at left back than Reguilon.

What is going on with players rehab and conditioning does need looking at we've had 3 separate players suffer major set backs during their rehab this season.

 

[Justin Cider]

It's just one of those positions(FB) in the modern game where players are picking up more injuries than those that went before them ever seemed to do, maybe the clubs/coaches are gonna have to look at their workload.

The days of fullbacks regularly playing 35/36 out of the 38 games in a PL season are a long time gone.

 

[jsp]

It's interesting because it seems like a few teams are now using centre backs as full backs.

Neither Arsenal or City have a specialist left back in their squad.

The way the squad is looking right now it'll be a new signing for every position this summer.

 

[justintime]

Reguilon never looked fully fit to me and think even he missed a few games through injury as he'd not played that much over the last few seasons.

I'd say Dalot has looked much better at left back than Reguilon.

What is going on with players rehab and conditioning does need looking at we've had 3 separate players suffer major set backs during their rehab this season.

Dalot is better too but he cannot play both as a RB and as a LB in the same match. That is the big issue. ETH has said that he would have kept Regulion if the medical staff had not assured him that both Shaw and Malacia would be fully fit by end of `January

 

[jsp]

Dalot is better too but he cannot play both as a RB and as a LB in the same match. That is the big issue. ETH has said that he would have kept Regulion if the medical staff had not assured him that both Shaw and Malacia would be fully fit by end of `January

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, at the point that decision was made Utd had 3 of the 4 full backs fit and the 4th close to a return.

At the time it was the right decision to make.

 

[Justin Cider]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, at the point that decision was made Utd had 3 of the 4 full backs fit and the 4th close to a return.

At the time it was the right decision to make.

Moreso because at the time EtH hoped he could use that extra loan-slot to bring in a centre-forward for cover. Because that didn't happen doesn't make not keeping SR on a mistake.

 

[jsp]

Moreso because at the time EtH hoped he could use that extra loan-slot to bring in a centre-forward for cover. Because that didn't happen doesn't make not keeping SR on a mistake.

If Shaw/Malacia are both fit for the remaining games how many games does Reguilon end up playing if he stays? At the point that he goes Utd are out of 2 cup competitions so there's not going to be a huge number of games to get through.

I think losing AWB as well was a killed as to be honest if he was fit we'd have just stuck Dalot to left back for the rest of the season.

Also, Reguilon was a bit crap.

 

[justintime]

No ETH said that the medical team assured him that they all would be fit by the end of January. That is why he did not keep Reguilon. He was not happy with the medical team.

His quote. He said: “In December, I had the talks internally with the medical and performance [staff]. They assured me they (Shaw and Malacia) will both be fit in January and so you will have two left full-backs. We talk about one of my biggest frustrations, there.

Erik ten Hag has revealed that Manchester United ended Sergio Reguilon’s loan because the club’s medical staff believed Luke Shawand Tyrell Malacia would return from injury in January.

 

[jsp]

I'm well aware of what the boss said and I'm sure he was frustrated that things didn't go to plan but rehab isn't an exact science.

For what it's worth Shaw did return from injury before suffering another separate injury which may or may not have been a result of him rushing back and being risked in games he probably wasn't fit to play in.

I'm also aware that speaking in his second language sometimes what he says cannot be taken in a fully literal sense. A word like "assure" could easily be used in the wrong context by someone speaking in a second language. I doubt the medical staff is going to "assure" you that a players will return by a set date.

 

[Jayc1860]

A new LB does seem like the smartest plan considering both of ours cannot stay fit. They've been out that long this season that it's now a case of them having to prove to the club that they are worth keeping. Losing my patience with Shaw, as it was close to him being fixed, and over the niggles, but no, they're back again. Bored of it. Feel bad for him, but stuff like this costs titles, and any potential chance of high placed finishes.

Think I'd spend big if necessary and let him try and win his place back, and if he can then great. If not, we will be fine and not left rotating literally any player we have left into that position. Amrabat having to play there was truly ridiculous.

 

[justintime]

A new LB does seem like the smartest plan considering both of ours cannot stay fit. They've been out that long this season that it's now a case of them having to prove to the club that they are worth keeping. Losing my patience with Shaw, as it was close to him being fixed, and over the niggles, but no, they're back again. Bored of it. Feel bad for him, but stuff like this costs titles, and any potential chance of high placed finishes.

Think I'd spend big if necessary and let him try and win his place back, and if he can then great. If not, we will be fine and not left rotating literally any player we have left into that position. Amrabat having to play there was truly ridiculous.

Could it be that it is an issue of the medical and the fitness team and not entirely on the players themselves?

 

[Jayc1860]

Could it be that it is an issue of the medical and the fitness team and not entirely on the players themselves?

I go backwards and forwards on that. Obviously we've had a massive amount of injuries this season, and it fits right in with what you're saying, and even I have thought the same. However Shaw's problems have always been there, they've obviously been a lot less frequent, but still there. I just feel like this is him again struggling to stay fit - his body is brittle. Malacia I do not know. It's probably mostly the same team of medical staff that dealt with them all the previous season, unless I'm missing something. I don't believe it was anywhere close to this bad then.

I thought it might be ETH's training regime, but based upon the same thinking as above, then I'm again uncertain. There is also the chance this is just a pure anomaly and we're having an insanely unlucky run with no fault by anybody.

Who knows?

I just think buying a new left-back can't hurt, the last time we did that and Shaw felt his place under real threat he upped his game quite a bit. Alex Telles was doing enough to keep him out of the team at first if my memory serves. So why not be safe and get a third? Let them battle for it.

 

[justintime]

3 players in any position is alright if they are willing to be squad players. They will be willing to be squad players if we are winning trophies. To me it seems to be fashionable to play left footed players on the right and vice versa. It is very good if all the players accept that and pass the ball to team mates in better positions all the time. Now at Liverpool and City for sure they will because they know that the managers will drop them otherwise. Pep got rid of Zlatan because he would not play the way Pep wants him to play.

 

[jsp]

The club does have the financial fair play rules to consider. I wouldn’t rule out Reguilon being sent back because it saved £1-2m from this year’s numbers.

I also don’t think you want unhappy players around the training ground every day, 3 senior left backs is to many.

As for the medical team who knows the truth it’s easy to point fingers at them but Utd players had an incredibly heavy season last year. Think it was around 60 club games, a World Cup in the middle and a pre season that was more about sponsors than preparing for this season.

It may be that our medical team isn’t at the cutting edge anymore or it could just be rotten luck. The Martinez, Mount and Malacia situations this season is worryingenough that they’re surely going to look at how things are being done.

Once you are in an injury crisis it means you cant really rotate as much so you probably take risks with players that you might not normally take.

As for new left back in the summer 1 in means 1 out and it’s hard to see an obvious route out for either of our current left backs with their injuries.

 

[Jayc1860]

3 players in any position is alright if they are willing to be squad players. They will be willing to be squad players if we are winning trophies. To me it seems to be fashionable to play left footed players on the right and vice versa. It is very good if all the players accept that and pass the ball to team mates in better positions all the time. Now at Liverpool and City for sure they will because they know that the managers will drop them otherwise. Pep got rid of Zlatan because he would not play the way Pep wants him to play.

Wasn't necessarily thinking of keeping all three long-term, it's probably overkill. I just don't think the club trusts Malacia and Shaw at this point, and will end up buying a LB. It's been too much of a problem this season. When is enough, enough? I'd say in the summer. Although this story might not have any real foundation, it does seem like a realistic route.

Romano is usully pretty good though.

 

[justintime]

Wasn't necessarily thinking of keeping all three long-term, it's probably overkill. I just don't think the club trusts Malacia and Shaw at this point, and will end up buying a LB. It's been too much of a problem this season. When is enough, enough? I'd say in the summer. Although this story might not have any real foundation, it does seem like a realistic route.

Romano is usully pretty good though.

I actually think they WILL buy a left back and maybe sell Malacia. The bigger issue was the unavailability of AWB to play on the right. If he was available Dalot will play on the left until Shaw gets back. In my opinion we need someone to replace Bruno too.