Sideshow Bob
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Didn't do much with those minutes, by all accounts. Although first game, new manager, etc. etc.Got 30 minutes off the bench last night. Things are improving for our Donny!
I think unfortunately he was loaned out to the wrong team at the wrong time. After loaning him Alli became available and surely they will give the priority to Alli who can be there long term?Really think he's got a problem because surely him and Dele are fighting for one spot.
Given they've signed Dele surely he's going to get the first crack at nailing down that starting spot.
Everton are seriously now in a relegation battle.
I think unfortunately he was loaned out to the wrong team at the wrong time. After loaning him Alli became available and surely they will give the priority to Alli who can be there long term?
And when he did start it was as part of a team that was completely rotated (or at least for the most part).Ole never fancied him from the start and it’s hard to come on for 5-10 minutes and make an impact. By the end his confidence here was basically crushed, so when he did play you could tell he was playing within himself.
At least he getting what he never got here which is a fair opportunity.
I do agree with you but you can't underestimate the feeling of a manager believing in you and wanting you in their team.if he played like that when on the pitch in a Utd shirt he’d have had more chances.
The reason chances were limited was because when he played he often did bugger all.
His problem at Utd has always been Bruno he was never going to take his spot and with the freedom Bruno is given you want two solid centre mids behind that which he just isn't.
Maybe a new manager might favour VDB over Bruno but I just can't see a system where those two ever fit in the team together.
Well he should be in a secure unit then, and not Managing Manchester United, and I say that as a fan of the lad(VdB)
Scholes highlighted the problems Bruno can cause and if we're going for Ten Haag or Poch who want players to operate in a system rather than as individuals Bruno will be a problem.
Bruno is a great player but when he is a problem in a system because he needs freedom to be at his best.
So does Donny, and he seemed to fit in well in Ten Haag's system at Ajax.
You know we’re not supposed to talk about Bruno.Scholes highlighted the problems Bruno can cause and if we're going for Ten Haag or Poch who want players to operate in a system rather than as individuals Bruno will be a problem.
Bruno is a great player but when he is a problem in a system because he needs freedom to be at his best.
You know we’re not supposed to talk about Bruno.
Donny fit the system though Ten Haag played 4-2-3-1 and the 10 had a more defined role from what I've read he wasn't allowed to go wherever the hell he wanted and try whatever he wanted.
This is what Bruno currently seems to do when the team is chasing a goal he loses his discipline and that's a problem as he leaves a huge gap in the middle of the pitch which is why teams bounce through us so easily.
It's give and take with him if he's giving you 20 goals and 20 assists in a season you can live with the problems he creates from a defensive point of view but when he isn't giving us that the defensive stuff becomes a problem.
We're talking freaky numbers there, for any player, in any team, in any League, at any level.
Feel free to list all the players in Europe who regularly achieve that, I'll go put the kettle on ....
I may have over exagerrated for effect but the point for me stands you need a lot back from him in terms of goal contributions to use the current terminology to justify the freedom he is often given but in a 50 games season I'd be expecting 30+ goal contributions from him. Seperate point but I also think assists are a pretty useless statistic in football and I have no idea why they've become such a big thing to fans.
His goals were previously padded a bit by him being a pen taken in a team that got a lot of penalties something that has dried up for us this season plus Ronaldo seems to have had them off him. Good to see him bag one last night although I hear he also missed a sitter.
Bruno for me plays the 10 role in a very different way to VDB would play it. Not saying either way is wrong it just depends what a manager will want. If we go for a guy like Ten Haag/Poch my guess is they'll want players that follow instructions to the letter whereas our previous manager with Bruno gave him a lot of license to go where he wanted in attacking plays.
The modern game is drowning in stats, the only important one is the one in the top left-hand corner of your TV screen, unless you've got your TV upside down obviously.
The fact that there are calls for the assister to the goal-assister to be credited won't please you much then.
We don't know that, Bruno might be taking it upon himself to do it knowing it would take a brave Manager to keep hooking him for not following instruction, moreso with him being a fans favourite.
Bruno learned the game in Italy and he wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes if he couldn't follow instructions to the letter.
In Italy I think he played more as a winger his explosion on the scene was back at Sporting where he was given that role just off the striker.
if you give him a very strict role I’m sure he can do it but do you lose the results if you do it?
Dunno, but this time next year we should know. The next Manager may well find a way to fit both Bruno and vd Beek in the same team though we may have to switch to 3-5-2 to do that.
Think it’ll be hard to get VDB in the side with Bruno.
VDB I think excels in a team that dominates the ball for long periods whereas Bruno is full throttle and risk taking you will never keep the ball well with him in the side as he just wants to go for the killer move every time.
We'll see, but if EtH comes in he'll want to give van Beek a chance unless he loves it so much at Everton(always a possibility)he wants to stay there, and it would take a brave guy to phase out a fans favourite(Bruno) to play his fellow countryman more so if there isn't an instant upturn in results/performances.
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