Sideshow Bob
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He took his leg away. Penalty all day long.
That was not a dive I'm sorry but if you're running at near full speed and someone steps across you there's no way you stay on your feet you will be knocked over.
Not that what I think he says is gospel but thought I’d post his opinion
Clattenburg wrote for the Daily Mail:
"After the Everton midfielder won the ball, Anthony Martial exaggerated his movement to make it look like a penalty."
His leg was right across Martials body, Martial did make a meal of the subsequent dive but its clear cut.
I think it's a difficult one, so fair enough to give it.
For me, he got the ball. but no enough, if he hadn't have taken Martial out, he could have still got to the ball.
Gueye didn't change the direction of the ball
when he got the slightest contact on the ball
...but he did, you can see it with your own eyes. You then say.......
...and this is what makes the difference between a penalty and no penalty. Contact with the ball is still contact with the ball , just like if the ball is over the line by 1 cm then its still a goal just the same as if its nestled in the net. Once you accept that there was contact however slight then you have a difficult time saying its a penalty. You would have to demonstrate that it was dangerous , or that it was leg first then ball or some second movement to bring down Martial.
I'm convinced the ref gave it for no other reason than because he didn't see the contact on the ball.
Trips or attempts to trip an opponent ~ Tick
Impeding the progress of an opponent with contact ~ Tick
in my opinion for that tackle to be fair he'd need to kick the ball either clearly out of play behind the goal, or change the direction towards a throw in. He gets a little stud on the ball which maybe changes the direction slightly away from goal but Martial would still easily have kept the ball in play had he been able to continue his run.
So you’re concluding then JSP that football is now completely a non contact sport?
He also made more contact on the ball than you’re making out. Massively more. The ball doesn’t only change direction it moves in the complete opposite direction the only reason it looks like it doesn’t is because it then ricochets back off of Martials left leg.
Martial moves the ball, he reads it beats Martial to it and Martial trips over and makes a meal of it. Perfect challenge. Now defenders aren’t allowed to make a challenge. The game is obviously f^cked. Vidic is a lucky boy he’s retired.
yes .....you do
Did it really take 3 posts to get your response down.
My point wasn't to attack you or anyone else my point was read what the laws of the game actually say and as you say the ball is not relevant to the decision making process.
I'm only quoting the laws of the game and this is the important bit "careless , reckless or using excessive force" now it's obviously not excessive force but it is careless and the foul is stopping the players forward momentum.
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