Wayne Rooney the manager

You could argue Rooney did shine at Derby in the harshest environment managing players who went months without their wages being paid.

Birmingham was a bad move and you'd hope he's learned from that and won't make the same mistakes at Plymouth.

If Plymouth goes badly for him then that might be the point where he decides management isn't for him.
 
Could easily flip it to you and say you seem desperate to slag him off.

I'm not desperate to defend him just think the criticism of him is a bit early he's took tough jobs and so far he hasn't done anything spectacular in any of them and I have no idea what the expectation at Plymouth is probably just staying in the Championship so if he keeps them up does that means he's done a good job?
 
I disagree.

He did a good job at Derby in extremely tough circumstances.

Reality is with Derby, Birmingham and now Plymouth success is keeping them in the division not getting them promoted.
 
Derby he won 24, drew 22 and lost 39 of his 85 games
DC United won 14, drew 14, lost 26.
Birmingham, registered victories in only two of Rooney’s 15 matches, with nine losses, for a win percentage of 13.3.

looks pretty crap to me but I guess it depends what you call success.
 
JammyRed said:
Derby he won 24, drew 22 and lost 39 of his 85 games
DC United won 14, drew 14, lost 26.
Birmingham, registered victories in only two of Rooney’s 15 matches, with nine losses, for a win percentage of 13.3.

looks pretty crap to me but I guess it depends what you call success.
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Looks on a par with Ten Hag to be honest. :)
 
I know that was tongue in cheek at Ajax almost 74% win rate
and almost 58% with us which is better than I thought
 
jsp said:
I disagree.

He did a good job at Derby in extremely tough circumstances.

Reality is with Derby, Birmingham and now Plymouth success is keeping them in the division not getting them promoted.
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I still really like the fact he's having a go. That's the only way you learn.

I agree about Derby.

My only concern is that he's not known for being the sharpest tool in the shed, and management is totally different to playing as a lot of ex-footballers have found out.
 
Jayc1860 said:
I still really like the fact he's having a go. That's the only way you learn.

I agree about Derby.

My only concern is that he's not known for being the sharpest tool in the shed, and management is totally different to playing as a lot of ex-footballers have found out.
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I love him as a bloke, but do not like him being labelled as 'thick', as he is far from being so. I just don't think management is for him - put someone like SAF in charge of him and he would be a fabulous coach.
 
Dickens Cider said:
I love him as a bloke, but do not like him being labelled as 'thick', as he is far from being so. I just don't think management is for him - put someone like SAF in charge of him and he would be a fabulous coach.
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I don't think he's thick. I think he might not be able to master tactics at the highest level. There is a difference. I think I would struggle to master them too, and I'm not thick. I have a good understanding, but I'd get destroyed by Pep or Klopp.

This isn't a problem for him right now though and I hope he does well in his current job and progresses with mastering player instructions and team instructions. You need to learn to gel them together which is the hardest part.
 
Jayc1860 said:
I still really like the fact he's having a go. That's the only way you learn.

I agree about Derby.

My only concern is that he's not known for being the sharpest tool in the shed, and management is totally different to playing as a lot of ex-footballers have found out.
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Don't let the accent fool you he's not as thick as some think always comes across really well as a pundit.

He was a very talented player and tactically he was good off the ball as well as on it. Played under some top managers as well for club and country so he knows the game inside out.

Doesn't mean he's going to be a great manager but he's got some great experience to draw on.

Reality is unless he gets a team promoted he isn't going to get a premier league job.
 
jsp said:
Don't let the accent fool you he's not as thick as some think always comes across really well as a pundit.

He was a very talented player and tactically he was good off the ball as well as on it. Played under some top managers as well for club and country so he knows the game inside out.

Doesn't mean he's going to be a great manager but he's got some great experience to draw on.

Reality is unless he gets a team promoted he isn't going to get a premier league job.
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Yeah. I'm supporting him. Hope he does well.
 
3-0 win vs Cheltenham in the EFL Cup.

50% win ratio ;)
 
Brilliant until you realise Cheltenham are 2 whole divisions below Plymouth...
but a win is a win eh ;)
 
Sitting mid table after 7 games.

Beat Luton 3-1 at home last night.

Luton really struggling after relegation.
 
I have a vague interest in Argyle as I went to watch them in my teens after my father decided to drag us down to Cornwall to live. I watched last night for about 30 mins and Rooney looked to have them playing some quite high octane stuff at times and their forward movement was quite sharp.
The Argyle fans I know are still a bit unsure of him, but admit [somewhat grudgingly] that they love the more attacking style.
 
Think they need to cash in on the home games as much as possible.

That’s a long trip for every away side, even for Bristol City it’s hardly on the doorstep.

Away games will be tough for the opposite reason.

Where do Argyle fans see success? Staying up playing half decent football seems about the best it can be for them given the amount of money being spent by others.
 

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