Summer 2025 Priorities

It's being reported that we have something like £20-£30m to spend before sales.

Sancho will add £25m.

Rashford's obviously up for sale and if Villa don't buy he should still bring in around £40m.

We have the possibility of Antony being sold too. He's already making noise about wanting to stay at Betis. I don't know how much that sale would be worth, but probably not more than £20m.

Also, if someone does buy Greenwood we'd get a little less than half, and he's probably worth £60m.

That all equates to a decent amount to spend. I don't think we'd need to sell Mainoo or Garnacho.
 
a rumour yesterday was Mainoo is pricing himself out of a new deal.
 
Yeah, I think it was reported a few weeks back too. So this is the second time we'll be hearing it.

The reports are saying he's asking for 180k a week. He's currently on 20k a week.

I don't know if any of it is true, but I will say that if it is, then we should probably sell him. For me he's not even close to worth that money right now. He needs to prove himself as player yet, and for a consistent amount of time.

Let's be honest, he's slow and weak. He might end up being too brittle for this league anyways.
 
Jayc1860 said:
Yeah, I think it was reported a few weeks back too. So this is the second time we'll be hearing it.

The reports are saying he's asking for 180k a week. He's currently on 20k a week.

I don't know if any of it is true, but I will say that if it is, then we should probably sell him. For me he's not even close to worth that money right now. He needs to prove himself as player yet, and for a consistent amount of time.

Let's be honest, he's slow and weak. He might end up being too brittle for this league anyways.
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Transfer market says 2027, with a present value of £2.6m, so if someone comes in with a stupid offer we should let him go.
A good player, however I do get the feeling he's of glass, I'd hate to see it happen, but if we give him a long contract like we did Rashford on stupid money he will spend a lot of the time keeping Mount and Shaw company.
 
Jayc1860 said:
Yeah, I think it was reported a few weeks back too. So this is the second time we'll be hearing it.

The reports are saying he's asking for 180k a week. He's currently on 20k a week.

I don't know if any of it is true, but I will say that if it is, then we should probably sell him. For me he's not even close to worth that money right now. He needs to prove himself as player yet, and for a consistent amount of time.

Let's be honest, he's slow and weak. He might end up being too brittle for this league anyways.
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I can get on board with the slow comment as he isn’t the quickest but I think he is pretty strong and has the time to fill out a bit more.

I think he’ll be just fine for us. Having a difficult second season but he’s not the first guy to have that. I would rather sell Garnacho than Mainoo if it was a straight toss up between the two. For me Mainoo is already technically better and has a higher ceiling of what he can achieve.
 
Matt Varnish said:
Transfer market says 2027, with a present value of £2.6m, so if someone comes in with a stupid offer we should let him go.
A good player, however I do get the feeling he's of glass, I'd hate to see it happen, but if we give him a long contract like we did Rashford on stupid money he will spend a lot of the time keeping Mount and Shaw company.
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That is definitely a possibility IMO. I said something similar about Amad when everyone was giving him praise. He's a tiny man and playing in such a physical league is tough. Unfortunately ability in England isn't enough.

SuperRash said:
I can get on board with the slow comment as he isn’t the quickest but I think he is pretty strong and has the time to fill out a bit more.

I think he’ll be just fine for us. Having a difficult second season but he’s not the first guy to have that. I would rather sell Garnacho than Mainoo if it was a straight toss up between the two. For me Mainoo is already technically better and has a higher ceiling of what he can achieve.
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I hope you're right, because players will constantly test you in our league.

I'm not sure I agree who has the highest potential. If Garnacho can learn to make better decisions I think he has a higher ceiling. He's just more devastating.
 
Mainoo's contract runs to 2027 with a 1 year option so Utd have no worries with him. The story today is talks are going well, Utd want to tie him down to a fresh 5 year deal and they aren't as far apart on wages as some report and the key part is he wants to stay.

I would guess they're planning the budget around no european football next season if they hit the jackpot by winning the europa league that opens the door to a bigger budget as CL football would be worth around £100m to the club.
 
Jayc1860 said:
That is definitely a possibility IMO. I said something similar about Amad when everyone was giving him praise. He's a tiny man and playing in such a physical league is tough. Unfortunately ability in England isn't enough.



I hope you're right, because players will constantly test you in our league.

I'm not sure I agree who has the highest potential. If Garnacho can learn to make better decisions I think he has a higher ceiling. He's just more devastating.
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I guess it’s hard to see how young players will progress as a lot can go wrong - injuries, attitude etc. But for me when you see Mainoo he has that natural ability, where as Garnacho is a little bit more rough around the edges and not all players can smooth those edges. It can just click though with some young players and hope Garnacho can become that devastating player but at the moment he has a lot to improve on.
 
Think both Mainoo and Garnacho have got a lot to learn about how to play the game at the highest level.

Ability wise it's all there and think with both of them the attitude is right. Garnacho can be a bit emotional when he gets subbed but on the pitch he puts a huge shift in both ways for the team.

The big challenge for both of them is to find a way to show their ability and thrive in this new system as they're likely both competing for the same spot as one of the number 10's behind the striker.
 
SuperRash said:
I guess it’s hard to see how young players will progress as a lot can go wrong - injuries, attitude etc. But for me when you see Mainoo he has that natural ability, where as Garnacho is a little bit more rough around the edges and not all players can smooth those edges. It can just click though with some young players and hope Garnacho can become that devastating player but at the moment he has a lot to improve on.
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I agree, it is very hard to know how they'll progress. Any slight misfortune could turn them from being a world beater into pointless. A good example is Amad, who was on fire before this serious injury. Who knows what he'll return like. He might have lost something.

With Garnacho and Mainoo I lean the other way actually, I think Garnacho has more natrual ability, as he beats players with ease and then usually finds a way to shoot or cross - sure the end product isn't there right now, but imagine if it was.

We've not really seen that much of Mainoo, he's always injured or tired. He's very overrated, and perhaps we should cash in while people believe he's so good. For me he's barely shown anything.
 
I think Mainoo has the composure, if I had to choose he'd be the one I would keep.

He showed for England how key he could be, under great pressure.

Garnacho is the more explosive exiting player, but his end product and decision making is off.

The difficulty, especially for Mainoo, is the system they are being asked to play
 
I wouldn't be against selling Kobbie and Garnacho if it could help fund a rebuild of midfield and attack
 
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He's talking about perfect fits for his system. He probably means wing-backs, ball playing CB's, and a dribbling #10. Zirkzee has been showing potential to be that dribbling #10, but he needs to be a lot more productive, and Amorim probably wants an upgrade. Bruno is probably going to be his creative #10. So that means a CM is needed too. Yeah, there's a lot that's needed. Right now he's just fitting square pegs into round holes.

I think Cunha would be perfect for that second #10 position. He's the opposite of Bruno. Perfect really.
 
If Mainoo isnt that 10 then he may as well be sold. He can't play the defensive role in this system.

For me, a striker is more important than anything else.
Then GK
Then CM
Then RWB
 
Our spine is a bit spineless, so a GK a CF and man for all seasons box to box midfield warrior.
 
I don’t think you can trust Cunha, Talented player but he’s a hot head.

Can’t see us buying any centre backs we’ve got plenty of options.

Reckon we need 6 players just to get to a point where we can start thinking top 4 again.

RWB
LWB
CM
CM
LF (number 10)
CF

Not all need to be starters but that’s what the squad needs straight away in my opinion.

Probably have to put up with this keeper for another season.
 
There's plenty of pluses to buying Cunha. He's a great age, and has Premier League experience, he also knows the formation very well.

He can play all positions up top including the striker.

The only problem I see is the price. I don't think Wolves will let him leave on the cheap, but It wouldn't be an astronomical price. Maybe £50-60m.

As for the CB's, if you wacthed or know about the players Amorim likes, then you'll know it all starts in those positions. He likes his CB's to be like a Hummels. Confident on the ball and finding clever passes into the midfield. I don't think any of our CB's have that in their lockers. We don't have the money to do it all though, or I seriously doubt it, so you're probably right, this year might not be about them.

I don't know what Ruben currently sees as his biggest problems. We'll definitely see him go for what I said at some point though.
 
If the rumours are true (big if) it seems a keeper is a priority as we've stepped up our pursuit of Zion Suzuki.

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Man United step up interest in £40m-rated goalkeeper to challenge Onana

Manchester United have stepped up their scouting of Parma goalkeeper Zion Suzuki, talkSPORT understands. The Red Devils are planning to bring in a new keeper this summer following a string of error…
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Weren’t we linked to this guy before?

£40m for a keeper who’s never played in Europe and has 1 season in a top league under his belt? No thanks.

I’d be looking for a decent but cheap keeper to be honest.
 
Jayc1860 said:
There's plenty of pluses to buying Cunha. He's a great age, and has Premier League experience, he also knows the formation very well.

He can play all positions up top including the striker.

The only problem I see is the price. I don't think Wolves will let him leave on the cheap, but It wouldn't be an astronomical price. Maybe £50-60m.

As for the CB's, if you wacthed or know about the players Amorim likes, then you'll know it all starts in those positions. He likes his CB's to be like a Hummels. Confident on the ball and finding clever passes into the midfield. I don't think any of our CB's have that in their lockers. We don't have the money to do it all though, or I seriously doubt it, so you're probably right, this year might not be about them.

I don't know what Ruben currently sees as his biggest problems. We'll definitely see him go for what I said at some point though.
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Yoro does.
 
jsp said:
Weren’t we linked to this guy before?

£40m for a keeper who’s never played in Europe and has 1 season in a top league under his belt? No thanks.

I’d be looking for a decent but cheap keeper to be honest.
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I think we were very interested from what I remember but maybe the player didn’t think us would be his best move because he wouldn’t be number 1. And to be fair he wasn’t wrong as he’s now established himself as a number 1 at Parma and those links are coming again.

One thing is for sure we need to upgrade our keeper in the summer. Whether we can with our lack of funds I don’t know. You could maybe skate by through another season without a new one if other areas were heavily strengthened and there was just nothing left in the pot.
 
Any good team needs to be solid at the back and that starts with the keeper.
 
In order of priority (in my opinion)

1. A top striker (maybe 2) - Cunha, DeLap
2. A no. 10 who can dribble, beat the press, create and chip in with 10+ goals a season - ????
3. A top right wing back - Frimpong
4. A fast, ball-playing centre-back who is comfortable on the ball - ?????

Bonus if we can
5. A new keeper
6. A replacement for Anthony on the left wing

Players out to help fund the above:
1. Rashford £40m
2. Sancho £25m
3. Anthony £35m
4 Onana £25m
5. Garnacho £55m

Total £180m

Club chip in with £50m and a total war chest of realistically £230m
 
Anyone who thinks we don't need central defenders is living in cuckoo land, we need reliable consistent players in defence, at any one time our back three/four/five has two or more injured or unfit, we need reliability, players who don't get injured looking at a tackle.
 
Colly Flats said:
In order of priority (in my opinion)

1. A top striker (maybe 2) - Cunha, DeLap
2. A no. 10 who can dribble, beat the press, create and chip in with 10+ goals a season - ????
3. A top right wing back - Frimpong
4. A fast, ball-playing centre-back who is comfortable on the ball - ?????

Bonus if we can
5. A new keeper
6. A replacement for Anthony on the left wing

Players out to help fund the above:
1. Rashford £40m
2. Sancho £25m
3. Anthony £35m
4 Onana £25m
5. Garnacho £55m

Total £180m

Club chip in with £50m and a total war chest of realistically £230m
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The idea a #10 is second on our list of needs and we should sell Garnacho is confusing.

If we are signing a striker this summer they have to be proven in the PL. Not for one year.

We have a fast, ball playing CB already.

The squad really isn't that bad. It's been made to look a lot worse than it is by the current manager.

Our first point of priority should be a new keeper and a left back. Go back to the formation the team should play in and sign a striker that is used to and proven in the league.

Do we have a buy back on Henderson? We are shopping in a different world to what we used to.

Henderson

Maz Yoro Martinez (Antonee) Robinson

Ugarte Mainoo

Amad Bruno Garnacho

Mbeumo

Gets you back in that top 6 chat with a different manager. With an outlay of £100m with as like you said the sales of Rashford and Sancho to subsidise it. I'd be going GK LB (Established) ST
 
The squad is terrible.

The recruitment under ETH has set the club back years

Onana and hojlund, the two must important positions in the club, are probably the worst in the league.

Our CM options with Mainoo injured are poor.

Garnacho is having a poor season, at the beginning of the season our play was so bad he just kept shooting all the time from unreasonable areas. So it could just be a bad season, but I can see why people would look at him to bring some money in. Again that's on the last coach for wasting all the money, all the players he bought we"ll lose money on, so we have to sell academy players, which is shocking.

Out of this squad, we've got

xxx

Xxx
Maz/xxx
De ligt/maguire
Yoro/heaven
xxx/Dorgu needs a chance


Ugarte/xxx
Mainoo/maybe collyer

Amad/xxx
Bruno
xxx/Garnacho

And some of those players I've listed, Maguire, maz, garnacho, ugarte have question marks.

So out of ETH 600m we've got, Maz, De ligt, ugarte. At least 2 have question marks. And yoro.


All other players, apart from academy need to go.

I could see an argument to keep mount. But if we got a decent offer, it's goodbye
 
IDFD said:
The idea a #10 is second on our list of needs and we should sell Garnacho is confusing.

If we are signing a striker this summer they have to be proven in the PL. Not for one year.

We have a fast, ball playing CB already.

The squad really isn't that bad. It's been made to look a lot worse than it is by the current manager.

Our first point of priority should be a new keeper and a left back. Go back to the formation the team should play in and sign a striker that is used to and proven in the league.

Do we have a buy back on Henderson? We are shopping in a different world to what we used to.

Henderson

Maz Yoro Martinez (Antonee) Robinson

Ugarte Mainoo

Amad Bruno Garnacho

Mbeumo

Gets you back in that top 6 chat with a different manager. With an outlay of £100m with as like you said the sales of Rashford and Sancho to subsidise it. I'd be going GK LB (Established) ST
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Go on, enlighten me...

Who is our 'fast, ball-playing CB'?

And 'the squad really isn't that bad...' ??? Specsavers anyone?

But I'll humour you - name me the players in our squad who would get into the first eleven at
Liverpool
Arsenal
City
Chelsea
Villa
Newcastle
Spurs
 
Colly Flats said:
Go on, enlighten me...

Who is our 'fast, ball-playing CB'?

And 'the squad really isn't that bad...' ??? Specsavers anyone?

But I'll humour you - name me the players in our squad who would get into the first eleven at
Liverpool
Arsenal
City
Chelsea
Villa
Newcastle
Spurs
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Exactly I remember years ago a Liverpool fan saying to me in a bar on holiday that non of our players would get in your team now, the tables have turned Bruno is our only consistent player now.
 
Colly Flats said:
Go on, enlighten me...

Who is our 'fast, ball-playing CB'?

And 'the squad really isn't that bad...' ??? Specsavers anyone?

But I'll humour you - name me the players in our squad who would get into the first eleven at
Liverpool
Arsenal
City
Chelsea
Villa
Newcastle
Spurs
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***Puts hand Up***
Me Sir! Me Sir!

No-one sir, not a single player would get in the Liverpool reserves first 11
 
IDFD said:
The squad really isn't that bad. It's been made to look a lot worse than it is by the current manager.
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Dude you are living in a dream world. The squad isn’t that bad? It’s freaking awful!

Uniteds priorities need to be a CF, a #10, a CM, a RWB and a CB. Then on top of that they need to look at what they can do at GK. And I’m not sure there’s any particular order to those priorities they need to do every single one.
 
RichH2016 said:
Dude you are living in a dream world. The squad isn’t that bad? It’s freaking awful!

Uniteds priorities need to be a CF, a #10, a CM, a RWB and a CB. Then on top of that they need to look at what they can do at GK. And I’m not sure there’s any particular order to those priorities they need to do every single one.
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Why do we need a #10 or RB?

We have one of if not the best 10 in the league. Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez is a great defensive trio. We have a very good right back in Maz. I don't think we need to focus on a RWB when we won't be playing wing backs in 6 months time.
 

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