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This is not on Amorim. The players continually make poor decisions. Garno had an easy pass to Dalot, loses possession and we concede a second.
So these inidividual mistakes suddenly aren't the managers fault? You guys have finally realised that?
 
A manager who builds a team with Onana, Martinez, Malacia, Casimero, Mount, Antony, Hojlund etc.

ETH killed this club. Set it back years, should have been sacked in the summer, was saved by a one off performance set up by Fletcher
Anyone watching last season who thought ETH should be kept on AND given another window needs their head checking.

These players are his problem the new guy has to deal with, with no money
 
I think the issue is the players. How else can other managers just come in and make those smaller team play better? Bruno is good in a counter attacking team and if we defend deep and play long balls he can play. When we have to play short and play in midfield he cannot play.
The 3 at the back is not the issue. The issue is the midfield and up front. No matter how good a striker we get we are not going to score if we do not give the ball in good positions always.
We need to keep possession and with this midfield and forwards we are not going to get it. Could it also be that it is better to get keepers who can keep and save goals instead of keepers who can play with their feet?
What is the point in keepers playing with their feet if the other 10 players cannot keep possession?
 
You really think ETH wanted those players or do you understand the money men behind it caused the issues? You do genuinely understand that he wasn't the one making the signings and wanting Jonny Evans?

The biggest issue the club has isn't the players or manager. It's the fans. Stupid fans that can't get a grip and be patient. A lot here a part of that.
 
We have been worse

True but things were heading in this direction under him.

He’d lost the plot wasn’t all down to him he had a lot of nonsense to deal with off the pitch but it had to change.

Neither of them can get this attack to fire

As for his signings in the first 2 summers he seemed to be the man calling the shots. Didn’t get everyone he wanted due to finances but the signings haven’t been good enough.

Left us with a mid table squad on champions league wages.
 
Yet Another goal conceded from a corner Onana has zero physical presence coming for the ball and we don’t have a decent defender with any real ability to defend in the air either really poor, Bruno with a stupid challenge for the second yellow it’s time to take the armband off him there’s was no way back after that.
And you know it’s bad when Antony Eriksen and Zerksee are coming on when you need a goal, that squad he’s been left with are one the worst the clubs ever had.
 
True but things were heading in this direction under him.

He’d lost the plot wasn’t all down to him he had a lot of nonsense to deal with off the pitch but it had to change.

Neither of them can get this attack to fire
We had the best XG in the league when he was sacked.

(Apparently that means nothing though)
 
Also I just find it embarrassing educated people can't grasp it takes time. Any other part of like you get it. Comes to United and you're wanting them out.

Amorim will be gone by the end of next season.

And you lot will be the ones wanting it.
 
Didn’t watch the build up what’s the story with Rashford today, ? left out again ?
 
We had the best XG in the league when he was sacked.

And one of the worst Xg against. The keeper had bailed us out of a lot of games under Ten Hag.

There’s deep lying issues that in 2 years he hadn’t addressed and in modern football that’s enough to call time.

I haven’t seen the 2nd half and caught parts of the first half but Amorim needs to rip into the ref today from what I saw. Was Bruno’s first a yellow? Didn’t look like it to me and it is a foul on the keeper unless they’ve changed the rules again, twice in a week. Yeah it’s a bit soft but it’s a foul and has been for 20 years. I’d even throw in the fact that Cunha playing at all is a joke he should be serving a 3 game ban.
 
Didn’t watch the build up what’s the story with Rashford today, ? left out again ?

Same as every game.

Manager clearly thinks his performance in training isn’t good enough to make the squad.

Read between the lines and I think they’re trying to force him out in January.
 
Yes it is a foul but the defenders are there to help him in these situations. Why are opposing players allowed to block our keeper? They should be protecting him. Too many of our players are weak and dive around and keep losing possession.
I agree that Bruno is a major problem for some time now. He needs to go as well and we need a player who can keep possession and do also the short passing and long passing. At this level it is simply not good enough.
Even Amad today was trying to dribble past everyone.
 
And one of the worst Xg against. The keeper had bailed us out of a lot of games under Ten Hag.

There’s deep lying issues that in 2 years he hadn’t addressed and in modern football that’s enough to call time.

I haven’t seen the 2nd half and caught parts of the first half but Amorim needs to rip into the ref today from what I saw. Was Bruno’s first a yellow? Didn’t look like it to me and it is a foul on the keeper unless they’ve changed the rules again, twice in a week. Yeah it’s a bit soft but it’s a foul and has been for 20 years. I’d even throw in the fact that Cunha playing at all is a joke he should be serving a 3 game ban.
Ref was giving us nothing today it was obvious from the off, that’s not making excuses for the loss but it made it even harder to get something from the game.
 
Ref was giving us nothing today it was obvious from the off, that’s not making excuses for the loss but it made it even harder to get something from the game.
Yes the first yellow is not a yellow and the second was a yellow. In the 4 in midfield with Mainoo it is not going to be a 2 man midfield. if they push the ball past him, he is never going to get it back as he lacks pace. I actually would play Uguarte and Cas in the middle and play Amad and Zirkzee with Rasmus up front.
 
You really think ETH wanted those players or do you understand the money men behind it caused the issues? You do genuinely understand that he wasn't the one making the signings and wanting Jonny Evans?

The biggest issue the club has isn't the players or manager. It's the fans. Stupid fans that can't get a grip and be patient. A lot here a part of that.
The money men picked a load of players who had played for ETH

The state of the squad is his legacy
 
And one of the worst Xg against. The keeper had bailed us out of a lot of games under Ten Hag.
This isn't true.

Was last few seasons. This season when ETH was sacked we were top for XGf and 9th for XGa and the biggest difference the league has seen through 10 games between our results and what the expected results were.
 
The money men picked a load of players who had played for ETH

The state of the squad is his legacy

We have the most scouts in the league. Its up above 60. To blame the manager is laughable at best.

ETH legacy is being our most successful manager ever after two seasons and have an embarrassing fan base that screwed us.
 
It's naive to think ETH had no say in this squad, when majority, including loans, had played for him.
I think he's been the biggest mistake post SAF.

Dutch press said at the time we should have gone for Slot, they knew.
 
To me the biggest problem with ETH was that at United it was not the way he played at Ajax. Ajax normally plays with an attacking midfield player who can hold the ball. I think ETH was also left with a bad situation with Bruno. Now Bruno is a very good player but he does not play well in a system like this.
 
To me the biggest problem with ETH was that at United it was not the way he played at Ajax. Ajax normally plays with an attacking midfield player who can hold the ball. I think ETH was also left with a bad situation with Bruno. Now Bruno is a very good player but he does not play well in a system like this.
This isn't true BTW. Bruno has a better pass completion rate than most 10's in the league.
 
I think he's been the biggest mistake post SAF.

Dutch press said at the time we should have gone for Slot, they knew.
Really?

Finished third. Won 2 trophies.

Because you gave up on him doesn't mean he was bad. It means you were.

How long you giving Amorim. Another 3 months?
 
We usually create a thread for the race to finish in the top 4 at this point in the season. Should we create a race to escape relegation thread instead?
 
@IDFD

You're blaming the players, they are ETH players

He really has set us back years

Are they?

Or are they Glazers players? He hasn't set us back. He won us two trophies. You and our fan base set us back.

ETH was the best thing to happen to us post Fergie. You guys stopped watching and got result orientated
 
This isn't true.

Was last few seasons. This season when ETH was sacked we were top for XGf and 9th for XGa and the biggest difference the league has seen through 10 games between our results and what the expected results were.

Meant the performance against Xg

Our defence was top 3 for goals conceded but was tracking at 9th.

We were top for Xg for but must have been one of the worst for goals scored.

Utd just didn’t look like we would start winning consistently under Ten Hag.

It’s still that way under Amorim. It looked to be taking a bit of shape but it’s fallen apart very quickly.
 
We usually create a thread for the race to finish in the top 4 at this point in the season. Should we create a race to escape relegation thread instead?
Most of em on this forum deserve relegation. Unfortunately we are too far clear.
 
Meant the performance against Xg

Our defence was top 3 for goals conceded but was tracking at 9th.

We were top for Xg for but must have been one of the worst for goals scored.

Utd just didn’t look like we would start winning consistently under Ten Hag.

It’s still that way under Amorim. It looked to be taking a bit of shape but it’s fallen apart very quickly.
We currently look like the worst team in the league.
 
Or are they Glazers players? He hasn't set us back. He won us two trophies. You and our fan base set us back
Glazers happened to pick a load of Dutch or players that had played for ETH.
 

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