Premier League 2024/25: Ipswich vs Man United - Sun 24th Nov - 16:30 KO

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IDFD said:
I said clear chances. Name one other than the goal. (There wasn't a proper clear chance hence our XG being under one)

Was Sunday good enough?

ETH was the most successful manager United ever had after two seasons. Let's hope Amorim beats it.

Unfortunately you lot will hound him out before he completes his third because you can't grasp its a massive bloody job every time you change manager and system and it takes 3 years.

I will happily drop it if everyone agrees regardless of results he our manager August 2029. Let's back him and support him and let him change everything and realise it takes a lot of time. But I know I'll be here saying the same things in 2 years.

(ETH also didn't ruin another season. When sacked he was 4 points off 4th with the worst xg to goal ratio so the finishing to blame not the tactics and in all competitions. That narrative needs to die. But I see the excuses being built early.)
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Does it? There are plenty of examples of bosses going into clubs and changing things around pretty quickly. You can’t just be static in your thinking and saying we need to give a manager 3 years regardless. The argument about giving Sir Alex time is a decent argument on paper but it’s an extreme example, if we had given ETH 25 plus years then I doubt he would be anywhere near the success Sir Alex had.

ETH did a half decent job and got us a couple of trophies but we really didn’t progress as a team in terms of a style and clear identity. If he didn’t win the FA Cup last season it would have gone down as an horrific season!

I would like to point out again I gave ETH so much time and leeway but come on, it was time to go. I highly doubt he would have ever led us back to where we wanted to be regardless of time given.

I totally zone out when xg is brought into an argument, I don’t need stats to tell me what my eyes can see!
 
yeah. xg is nonsense. I pay it no attention.

That FA cup win was a bit jammy, and it was Fletcher who told him to play like that in the final apparently.

I just wished we could move on, he was nowhere the level required in choosing players to sign, or coaching.

there is no need to keep bringing him into every thread, or comparing a manager who had 2.5 years, had a team full of his signings to a man who had a week and no players signed.

Crazy stuff.

Come back in 2.5 years and comapre them.
 
IDFD said:
I said clear chances. Name one other than the goal. (There wasn't a proper clear chance hence our XG being under one)

(ETH also didn't ruin another season. When sacked he was 4 points off 4th with the worst xg to goal ratio so the finishing to blame not the tactics and in all competitions. That narrative needs to die. But I see the excuses being built early.)
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Was 2 proper chances in my opinion the Garnacho chance just after half time that the keeper saved and the 2vs1 break which Garnacho didn't manage to get the ball to Rashford.

When ETH was sacked after 9 games the gap to Villa who were 4th was 7 points.

After 9 games you could see this season wasn't really going anywhere and changing the manager probably means it still won't but it reached a point where you have to make a change.

I agree changing the manager every 2 seasons isn't going to get us anywhere fast but if the manager isn't good enough and I don't think ETH was then you have to make the change. It takes a massive personality to lead a club like Utd and I just don't think he had that in his locker which is a shame.
 
Mr C said:
yeah. xg is nonsense. I pay it no attention.

That FA cup win was a bit jammy, and it was Fletcher who told him to play like that in the final apparently.

I just wished we could move on, he was nowhere the level required in choosing players to sign, or coaching.

there is no need to keep bringing him into every thread, or comparing a manager who had 2.5 years, had a team full of his signings to a man who had a week and no players signed.

Crazy stuff.

Come back in 2.5 years and comapre them.
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It wasn’t Jammy ffs, we were by a country mile the better team that day, and to prove it wasn’t a fluke we out-played them in the Charity Shield again, and they needed a lucky last minute goal to get back into the game, and they were always going to win on penalties after that ....
Christ even Pep admitted we were the better side - give EtH that at least
 
soz, were were lucky in the semi, so I meant in the cup run.

The actual final we were excellent, but on Darren Fletchers instruction by all accounts
 
Mr C said:
soz, were were lucky in the semi, so I meant in the cup run.

The actual final we were excellent, but on Darren Fletchers instruction by all accounts
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Lucky in the Semi, they scored two from massive deflections
Oh yeah, can’t be seen to give EtH credit can we LOL
 
ETH must be a tactical genius, leading up to the FA final he hardly bothered using a midfield then by a stroke ingenuity actually used a midfield and it totally caught Pep out and we won, fair play.
 
What a load of mind boggling nonsense being written here.

Anybody still supporting ETH does not have the club's best interests at heart. They just want to say they were right, when they were not.

You're wrong. ETH is gone, and he deserves to be.

There must be about five of you left in the world, all with the football intelligence level of an eight year old.
 
Jayc1860 said:
What a load of mind boggling nonsense being written here.

Anybody still supporting ETH does not have the club's best interests at heart. They just want to say they were right, when they were not.

You're wrong. ETH is gone, and he deserves to be.

There must be about five of you left in the world, all with the football intelligence level of an eight year old.
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I'm guessing you just can't help yourself

Disgusting comment
 
Justin Cider said:
I'm guessing you just can't help yourself

Disgusting comment
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The truth is all it is.

You've been told you won't be able to get me to bite ever again. Keep trying though.

Surely you have something better to do? You must be in a really bad way to be this much of a pain at all times. I only pity you.

How many times have you been banned? I suggest it's you that needs to have a look at themselves. You can't be far away from a full ban.
 
Jayc1860 said:
The truth is all it is.

You've been told you won't be able to get me to bite ever again. Keep trying though.

Surely you have something better to do? You must be in a really bad way to be this much of a pain at all times. I only pity you.

How many times have you been banned? I suggest it's you that needs to have a look at themselves. You can't be far away from a full ban.
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Bit of friendly advice mate, ditch your aggressive forum personality, and go with the milder more caring one who had the decency, albeit belatedly, to reach out via PM to apologise for suggesting on this forum that I was lying when I said I was in Hospital after having a stroke

There's only one of us sat there with a baited fishing-line, and i'll give you a clue it ain't me, I really have got better things to do, you obviously don't ....
 
Justin Cider said:
Bit of friendly advice mate, ditch your aggressive forum personality, and go with the milder more caring one who had the decency, albeit belatedly, to reach out via PM to apologise for suggesting on this forum that I was lying when I said I was in Hospital after having a stroke

There's only one of us sat there with a baited fishing-line, and i'll give you a clue it ain't me, I really have got better things to do, you obviously don't ....
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I honestly don't care anymore at this point with you, say what you want. I can't keep going through the same nonsense.

Don't bother replying because I won't be as this crap is dragging the thread off topic.
 
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