I’d tend to agree with this. He’s the new scape goat, so everything he touches must instantly turn to fecal matter. Nobody wants to mention Fred for some reason, but he just lets ASM have that show uncontested bc he’s in the middle of a power nap.Not sure how much else he's meant to do coming backwards on to the ball. Doesn't help he was the only player defending the box.
I can see why people that look to criticise him would jump on it but think it's extremely harsh. Possibly could have put it out for a corner? What else could he have done?
But he gets his head on the ball gets it out and where is any other player that should be reacting? Why's he the only United player in the danger area. Shocking defending again.
Fred was awful.I’d tend to agree with this. He’s the new scape goat, so everything he touches must instantly turn to fecal matter. Nobody wants to mention Fred for some reason, but he just lets ASM have that show uncontested bc he’s in the middle of a power nap.
Against Sociedad Fred delivered a raking pass of exquisite beauty. Beyond that, I think Fred has been uniformly awful and should be fighting for a place in the reserves.Would you say he was worse than usual? I ask bc I really don’t understand what he brings deserve the praise he seems to get.
One big difference surely is that the captain should be marshaling forces and calling out danger. Maguire made an error, it happens, we still won. It doesn’t add up to blame all of the others defending that corner and then let off the hook the one who made a mistake. Like most people here, I’ve played plenty with vocal, aggressive captains who make sure everyone is on task: Maguire is not that person.Just watched it again. He's caught under the ball if he tries to head it out for a corner he risk scoring an own goal so did the only thing he could do with it. It's not good defending but he's done all he can with the position he's trapped in back peddling towards his own goal. Others have to react and seriously where the hell is everyone we are defending a corner!
Watch the corner before hand and the exact same thing happens with Martial and again no one reacts but De Gea makes an excellent save.
Could they have got out quicker perhaps? The problem isn't the header as there isn't much he can do but our general defending of set pieces and a failure to react.
Terrible header? He got as good a contact on it while running towards his own goal as you can get, if he makes contact any other way it flies into his own net. The other option, which isn't an option, is to not make any contact and let the ball fly into the goalmouth. The players behind him were sleeping. How far do you think he should have been able to clear the ball with a flicked back header while moving towards his own goal? You've obviously never played the game.I haven't given him a pass, I said it was terrible defending but also a foul.
Maguires header is terrible, you can't put that blame anywhere else. Awful defending. He doesn't even head it where he wants to looking at his head movement. I swear he's got his eyes shut again, difficult to work that out though.
I'm not a lindelof over Maguire fan, they are both proving terrible. Maguire is looking a complete waste of 80m. What bugs me is the amount of grief lundelof gets when Maguire is equally terrible.
I do think it's time Maguire gets away with stuff because Lindelof is worse line of thinking stops.
VAR are meant to review every goal, how they deem an attacker can cover up the defenders eyes is beyond me.
But it wasn't Lindelofs only error.
It's a foul, I don't care what Neville says, but lindelof did worse during that game. Show the rest of the tosh, not where he was fouled.
You're clueless about the game, as are the journalists who reported on it.Again, don't think I said it was wholly Maguires fault, so I am being misrepresented again. I said it was awful defending by him.
It's a terrible header by Maguire
Why are 3 united players marking one Newcastle player is another point.
Why didn't, I think Matic or Greenwood, take control.
At least one of those two should be on the scorer, ASM.
It's a litany of errors, doesn't remove the fact Maguire should have done much better.
You're clueless about the game, as are the journalists who reported on it.
I agree with this too, as I mentioned. I just think it was a poor header. It's not just the press or me, the goals against prove we have serious problems in defence, that can't all be labelled at Lindelof, or Maguire for that matter.My initial reaction was where the hell are the rest of our defence.