Noussair Mazraoui

Justin Cider said:
If you need it explaining to you not sure football is the sport for you
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So you can’t tell me why you think he’s any good? Thought so, stop chatting shit

I’d say with some confidence that football is definitely not the sport for you
 
Justin Cider said:
Stevie Coppell could and in stride, and he didn't need somebody to take his direct opponent away
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coppell was one of my favourite players, second to Robo. Great player, no way could he cross or hit a dead ball like Beckham.
 
Sit tight folks Justin is going to come back and impart his wisdom on us about all the great things Antony brings to the team.
 
JammyRed said:
So you can’t tell me why you think he’s any good? Thought so, stop chatting shit

I’d say with some confidence that football is definitely not the sport for you
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Even if you don't think he's a good player you cannot deny he's disciplined, holds his shape on instinct and works his tripe off for the team, and how many players can you say that about in the current squad, stat counting, suggest you only need one hand .....
 
Mr C said:
coppell was one of my favourite players, second to Robo. Great player, no way could he cross or hit a dead ball like Beckham.
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Never mentioned dead ball at which Beckham had few equals

Oh to have Robbo, Stevie C and Paul McGrath in the team now.
 
JammyRed said:
Sit tight folks Justin is going to come back and impart his wisdom on us about all the great things Antony brings to the team.
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Got better things to do with me time, you young uns just don't want to learn, and why would you because you think you know everything already .....
 
Justin Cider said:
Got better things to do with me time, you young uns just don't want to learn, and why would you because you think you know everything already .....
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I’m giving you the chance to impart your wisdom on us because there’s only you can see something in Antony, even the rose tinted fans struggle to see anything good about him, and Eth finally gave up and started leaving him out at the end of last season because he lost patience so there you have it it’s just you that likes him.
 
JammyRed said:
I’m giving you the chance to impart your wisdom on us because there’s only you can see something in Antony, even the rose tinted fans struggle to see anything good about him, and Eth finally gave up and started leaving him out at the end of last season because he lost patience so there you have it it’s just you that likes him.
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Behave yourself, there's plenty of United fans that can see what he brings to the team even if he's not contributing too much with G/A's

Some of us have got minds of our own, and don't feel the need to follow the crowd with the latest fall guy. Baa, baa, baa
 
Justin Cider said:
Behave yourself, there's plenty of United fans that can see what he brings to the team even if he's not contributing too much with G/A's

Some of us have got minds of our own, and don't feel the need to follow the crowd with the latest fall guy. Baa, baa, baa
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No I’m still not convinced try harder, chasing back a bit isn’t anywhere near enough.
He’s supposed to attack the opposition defence, get past players, create chances for others and score a few.
He rarely does any of that and if you say he does you must be watching something completely different to me.
 
So how do people feel about Morocco’s second best right back?
 
Justin Cider said:
Leave the cute stuff to the moderators pal
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Just trying to steer us all back towards the topic rather than discussing the performances of a current player.

If we are replacing AWB with him I’m not against it but it’s a signing that improves the squad not necessarily the first XI from the limited bits I’ve seen of this guy.

Much better on the ball going forward but suspect defensively so basically the modern full back.
 
jsp said:
Just trying to steer us all back towards the topic rather than discussing the performances of a current player.

If we are replacing AWB with him I’m not against it but it’s a signing that improves the squad not necessarily the first XI from the limited bits I’ve seen of this guy.

Much better on the ball going forward but suspect defensively so basically the modern full back.
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Yeah I know mate, was kinda joking

He seems to be better defensively on the left, the little i've seen him their at cub level anyway
 
Justin Cider said:
Yeah I know mate, was kinda joking

He seems to be better defensively on the left, the little i've seen him their at cub level anyway
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Possibly because he takes less risks going forward on that side?

Bit of a Dalot situation maybe he’s had some great games defending at left back but gives you very little going forward on that side.
 
jsp said:
Possibly because he takes less risks going forward on that side?

Bit of a Dalot situation maybe he’s had some great games defending at left back but gives you very little going forward on that side.
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Thought he did quite well getting forard on that side at the World Cup, there were a few times he was well advanced of Hakimi
 
Not for me, we need to improve our starting 11. Not have more bench warmers.

Our starting 11 is nowhere near good enough.
 
Mr C said:
Not for me, we need to improve our starting 11. Not have more bench warmers.

Our starting 11 is nowhere near good enough.
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This one looks like it's pretty much self funding the fee for AWB will pretty much cover the fee for Mazraoui and Utd end up with a better backup right back.

Just all feels very 1 in 1 out at the moment and unless the current midfielders are moved on then it doesn't feel like they're going to be replaced and that's a massive problem.
 
I would have thought our midfield is far more important than a right back especially when we are working on a supposedly tight budget, if we dont reinforce the midfield its going to be another difficult season.
 
Thing is, Wan Bissaka will need to leave this summer if he isn’t seen as the long term answer otherwise the club won’t receive a transfer fee. Him leaving this summer will help finances and raise funds to sign a replacement.
 
jsp said:
This one looks like it's pretty much self funding the fee for AWB will pretty much cover the fee for Mazraoui and Utd end up with a better backup right back.

Just all feels very 1 in 1 out at the moment and unless the current midfielders are moved on then it doesn't feel like they're going to be replaced and that's a massive problem.
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I dont see the point in replacing one bench player with another, it's the first 11 that needs updating. We need to get more points, you don't get that by improving the bench
 
Mr C said:
I dont see the point in replacing one bench player with another, it's the first 11 that needs updating. We need to get more points, you don't get that by improving the bench
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Well a stronger bench will help you deal with injuries which will happen, far to often last season we had nothing on the bench to come on to try and change the game or see it out.

AWB is going to be out of contract in 12 months so we either give him a new deal and keep him a squad player for the next 2-3 years or sell him and replace him with someone who's better suited to what the manager is trying to do.

If the opportunity is there to fix this problem right now I say fix it but not at the expense of the wider problems which is the midfield.

It's a bit like the Fred situation last summer it wasn't essential that Fred left but with the contract situation we had to sell him otherwise we'd be getting nothing for him this summer as he wasn't going to get a new deal. We patched that up with a loan signing but unless they feel Collyer can step into a first team squad role this season we haven't actually filled the gap Fred left in the squad as they didn't keep Amrabat.
 
United should surely lower their price for AWB and just get that one done. They need to sign a RB, they want AWB gone so they need to just make it happen.
 
Mr C said:
I dont see the point in replacing one bench player with another, it's the first 11 that needs updating. We need to get more points, you don't get that by improving the bench
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We do need to improve the starting line up but you also need more competence off the bench. If Dalot suddenly gets injured we need a better replacement than AWB.

Think we just got to be patient this summer as like jsp said it feels like the incomings will rely on the outgoings. I have no doubt there is still some money to spend but got to be prudent with the added financial rules.
 
RichH2016 said:
United should surely lower their price for AWB and just get that one done. They need to sign a RB, they want AWB gone so they need to just make it happen.
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Why? I'd say the reported £15m asking price is reasonable for him.

I expect most of the mid table sides are spending £15m on their starting right backs which is the level he's meant to be at.

They only need to sign a right back if AWB leaves if he ends up staying then he's a decent enough back up.
 
Dumfries would be better.

It would have been better to let AWB run his contract out, and scout a first teamer than buy another bench player. Signing Mazraoui is the equivalent of extending AWB deal. There is no difference. Waste of money
 
So you let AWB's contract expire, I assume you will be demoting Dalot to the number 2 role and buying a new right back.

Where does the £50m needed to make that happen come from?

I don't think right back starting spot is a massive problem at the moment Dalot is solid enough you would have to spend a lot of money to get a better player than him.

Dumfries in my opinion is not a better right back than Dalot.

I guess my issue with Mazraoui is we're going back to the players who've played under Ten Hag scouting method. Surely we need to find someone who's similar to him but isn't as injury prone.
 
Mr C said:
lets waste money on not upgrading the current no 2 RB. Makes sense.
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We won’t be wasting any money, the fees for both players will be similar. So one in and one out.

Also upgrading squad options isn’t a waste of money.
 
We are downgrading a player. Or at best signing a player equal to what we have.
Makes no sense to me.
 
It's also a player who likes to be political. So could get us in the papers for the wrong reasons
 
Wasn’t aware of his comments I suspect some of them may be an issue for the club.
 
Mr C said:
We are downgrading a player. Or at best signing a player equal to what we have.
Makes no sense to me.
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It does make sense logically as we would lose AWB for free next summer and then have to spend for a replacement, so this way there is no extra finances being spent - well maybe a little depending on the fee for Mazraoui as it could be slightly more than the AWB one.

It would be a good move for all parties.
 
You would hope in the opinion of the coach and the other people involved in signings that they see him as an upgrade on AWB rather than a downgrade. Really we have to hope that those involved in the decision making process this summer are going to make better decisions than those who've made the decisions in the last 2 summers.

I just don't think AWB has the skills on the ball to play for a top side it's always been a flaw in his game and it hasn't improved massively in his 5 years at the club he just isn't comfortable in possession.

1 vs 1 defending I don't think there's anyone better but if Utd want to start pushing for the titles they will need to start dominating possession, creating chances and scoring a lot more goals. A player like AWB becomes an issue when you want to keep the ball because he doesn't want to take the ball under pressure. He's quite good at dribbling his way out of pressure but the quick short passing game has never been for him.
 

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