Mason Mount | Match Discussion Thread 2024/25

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Hopefully he can stay clear of injuries this season, so we can see what he’s all about and try to understand why he was bought.

Has looked okay in pre-season but I think at this point it’s about getting games under his belt.
 
PL: Manchester United 1-0 Fulham - 16th August

He was decent. He linked play well at times and his pressing sets the tone for the rest of the team. I don’t think it’s a coincidence United’s level of performance dropped after he was replaced.
 
He was ok.

I’m just struggling to see him and Bruno in the same side and that’s an issue.
 
Justin Cider said:
Not sure why, they are totally different players.
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I don’t disagree but unless Mount plays wide I see 2 people competing for 1 spot.

Not saying there’s only 1 way to play that role but Bruno does it better than almost anyone in the game which leaves Mount in a tough spot
 
Mount can play with Bruno in the current system - 4-2-2-2 or 4-4-2 as Neville called it. It enables two false nines. The problem is, will he keep playing that way. Also if he does I feel the system suits Zirkzee better than Mount, so he probably loses his spot either way.
 
I dislike Mount as a signing because i have never really got it about him. But he was the second best player on the pitch for me yesterday. Looked like a man on a mission to prove himself to the United crowd.

On that note does Mazraouri have a player performance thread. That was one of the best debuts you'll see. Didn't miss a beat and think he was the best player on the pitch. Never watched the fella properly before but OT must have loved his hunger. Went in for every challenge full blooded. Was composed on the ball. Reminded me of a young Vidic in terms of his aggression in the tackle and my God it's great to have someone like that at the back. Him and Martinez will scare strikers. After his first game I'd say he's above Dalot at RB.

Think from the players that started Mazraouri and Mount can hold their heads up high.
 
Disagree on Mount, did nothing but run around. Don't remember him offering any key or decent passes, no key interceptions or tackles.

Agree on Mazaouri, great debut
 
Mount was great as a young player, did really well at Chelsea then faded a bit and thats what we`ve got now a player thats not what he used to be, United need to find the old Mount and how to use him best which is probably right of midfield, he did a lot of chasing down on Friday which is good but somehow hasn't fully fitted in, Im in the why did we buy him camp at the moment.
 
Mount did a great job against Fulham at pressing but his overall play was okay. I thought Maz and Casemiro were the stand outs to be honest.

He should have scored but he did improve in the second half. Once Hojlund and Zirkzee start to play games from the start then Mount will be a bench player mostly but there are plenty of games in all competitions for him to make an impact.
 
Mr C said:
Disagree on Mount, did nothing but run around. Don't remember him offering any key or decent passes, no key interceptions or tackles.

Agree on Mazaouri, great debut
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That's his strength, he is one of the more selfless players in the League, he is constantly making runs to create space for his teammates, I bet they love him, and it's no surprise the Dutch loved watching him(third man running and all), but your average Joe misses most of what he does ....
 
SuperRash said:
Mount did a great job against Fulham at pressing but his overall play was okay. I thought Maz and Casemiro were the stand outs to be honest.

He should have scored but he did improve in the second half. Once Hojlund and Zirkzee start to play games from the start then Mount will be a bench player mostly but there are plenty of games in all competitions for him to make an impact.
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55 million plus add ons for a potential bench player.

Brilliant scouting and management.
 
Justin Cider said:
That's his strength, he is one of the more selfless players in the League, he is constantly making runs to create space for his teammates, I bet they love him, and it's no surprise the Dutch loved watching him(third man running and all), but your average Joe misses most of what he does ....
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The problem here is, you can't just join us to be a runner, unless you are ball hunting DM. Mount is not that player.

He must vastly improve in one other area at least, or him being on the pitch doesn't make sense.

When Zirkzee was introduced he made the same type of effort, but with way more intelligence. He was running even towards wings to take players with him, then getting back in to midfield to provide an option. He then managed to score the winner. He did all that in a third of the time Mount had.

He's just not good enough, mate.
 
Justin Cider said:
That's his strength, he is one of the more selfless players in the League, he is constantly making runs to create space for his teammates, I bet they love him, and it's no surprise the Dutch loved watching him(third man running and all), but your average Joe misses most of what he does ....
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Except I meant he ran around ball chasing, like someone who knows they're not good enough, but hopes running around makes up for it. See also Antony
 
Jayc1860 said:
The problem here is, you can't just join us to be a runner, unless you are ball hunting DM. Mount is not that player.

He must vastly improve in one other area at least, or him being on the pitch doesn't make sense.

When Zirkzee was introduced he made the same type of effort, but with way more intelligence. He was running even towards wings to take players with him, then getting back in to midfield to provide an option. He then managed to score the winner. He did all that in a third of the time Mount had.

He's just not good enough, mate.
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Who said he joined just because he's a runner? You don't get out of the most successful Academy side at that time, become a PL regular by 20 and a regular starter for England by 21 if all you bring to the table is running.

Why mention Zirkzee a forward when you are talking about the merits(or lack of) of an attacking midfielder?

He's more than good enough, and if he stays fit he will prove it this season.
 
Justin Cider said:
Who said he joined just because he's a runner? You don't get out of the most successful Academy side at that time, become a PL regular by 20 and a regular starter for England by 21 if all you bring to the table is running.

Why mention Zirkzee a forward when you are talking about the merits(or lack of) of an attacking midfielder?

He's more than good enough, and if he stays fit he will prove it this season.
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Zirkzee was mentioned due to the fact Mount was playing as a false 9, pretty much the exact profile of said player.

And I guess we'll see if he can stay fit and keep getting starts. I will admit we haven't had enought time to truly judges him, so you may well end up being right.

I'm just of the opinion he's a nothing player.
 
Jayc1860 said:
Zirkzee was mentioned due to the fact Mount was playing as a false 9, pretty much the exact profile of said player.

And I guess we'll see if he can stay fit and keep getting starts. I will admit we haven't had enought time to truly judges him, so you may well end up being right.

I'm just of the opinion he's a nothing player.
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That's usually the outcome ;)
 
The `Mount we saw for Chelsea is not the same player at United. He looks vastly lack of confidence and down. Could it be that he is not being played in the correct position? I always thought he was a squad player as I did not see anyone he could replace and keep it the same level or even bring the level up.
 
Think the injuries have to be a factor not just last season with us but his final season at Chelsea he hasn't played a lot of football in the last 2 years. Hopefully that's behind him.

I don't see him being a nailed on starter but he's a good player to have on your bench because of his flexibility but he needs to get fully fit and play regularly.
 
I just don't see what he does, same when he played for England, I'm sure if you looked back I said the same.

He's a nothing player. No point having him on the pitch
 
I think he's a player who nits things together well he doesn't always provide the final touch in terms of an assist or goal but he often played an important role in the build up.

He looks after the ball very well.
He presses very well to force mistakes.

At his best good managers were picking him regularly and when Chelsea were looking to sell him Arsenal and Liverpool were interested but backed off at the price and wages he wanted.

We have overpaid for him because he's going to be a squad player but if he stays fit I think he'll contribute plenty.
 
Looks like he needs to play a bit more to get match fit. But to me his problem is that I cannot see any player that he will replace in the PL. Garnacho, Amad and Rashford are better than him on the wings. Bruno is better than him in the centre and he is not going to replace Mainoo. That said if ever Bruno gets injured, and misses a few games we do not have any else to replace him before Mount came to United.
 
I think he'll get plenty of games across all comps might not always be a starter but he'll likely be the first man off the bench regularly when it comes time to make subs because he can play so many different positions.

After the international break it's basically 2 games a week every week with the new European format.

Ten Hag is going to have to use the squad and resting Bruno will have to be part of that. The team has to learn and be able to play without him.
 
Thats the difference between a great team and United. Take out Bruno and we do not know how to play but we have played some great games without him too.
 
justintime said:
Thats the difference between a great team and United. Take out Bruno and we do not know how to play but we have played some great games without him too.
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It's the main thing I want to see ETH address this season there needs to be a Utd way of playing that Bruno fits into not a way of playing where everything goes through Bruno.

I can't remember to many great performances without him mainly because he barely ever misses a match.
 
Mr C said:
I just don't see what he does, same when he played for England, I'm sure if you looked back I said the same.

He's a nothing player. No point having him on the pitch
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Couldn’t agree more. He does nothing special and he is very much a nothing player. You don’t notice him when he’s playing and he isn’t missed when he’s not.
 
Premier League: Brighton & Hove Albion 2-1 Manchester United - 24th August 2024

In the first two games the level of United’s performance has dropped when Mount has been replaced.
 
RVN said:
I put that down to coincidence rather than due to Mount not being on the pitch.
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Was a bit tongue in cheek but it is true and we looked better going forward after he went off in both games.

This isn’t a pop at Mount I just don’t think you can play him and Bruno as a front 2.
 
jsp said:
Was a bit tongue in cheek but it is true and we looked better going forward after he went off in both games.
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Not sure that’s the case. The attacking play deteriorated after he was replaced against Fulham. I’d like to know the number of big chances with and without Mount on the pitch.
 
Sideshow Bob said:
Not sure that’s the case. The attacking play deteriorated after he was replaced against Fulham. I’d like to know the number of big chances with and without Mount on the pitch.
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Vs Fulham think there were 5 in total 3 with Mount 2 without. He played an hour and 1 of the big chances fell to him.

The pressing definitely drops off without him and when he comes off and we change formation we have been all over the place for 10-15 minutes afterwards.
 

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