Marcus Rashford | Match Discussion Thread 2024/25

A goal in the first minute doesn't mean your job is done you need to still have some impact on the game.

After that goal we saw nothing from Rashford he didn't scrap for anything up against a poor defence to force mistakes and create more chances.

There's an ugly side to the game that he's just not interested in and it's why he'll never be a world class player he only wants to play on one side of the ball.
 
IDFD said:
But it's all good. ETH didn't pick the side. So no issues
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Is this a wind up.

ETH had 2 years, spent 600m, we had our worst start in the prem, was 13/14th playing terrible football scoring badly.

This guy has had a week with a complete new formation. He's not going to start Ugarte who probably only got back Thursday.

This comparison to ETH is not fair imo. It's a completely different scenario. When he's had 2 years and 600m to spend, then you can compare

As for Rashford, he picked him and he scored, that was his job. Hojlund never looked like scoring because he doesn’t understand what positions to take up. Zirkzee can’t control a ball. There are no real options. He has to go into the market in Jan

As for doing nothing after. Haaland has games where he does nothing and scores, and he’s lauded for it

Stop piling on Rashford, his role today was to score, he had 1 chance and scored.
 
Mr C said:
Is this a wind up.

ETH had 2 years, spent 600m, we had our worst start in the prem, was 13/14th playing terrible football scoring badly.

This guy has had a week with a complete new formation. He's not going to start Ugarte who probably only got back Thursday.

This comparison to ETH is not fair imo. It's a completely different scenario. When he's had 2 years and 600m to spend, then you can compare

As for Rashford, he picked him and he scored, that was his job. Hojlund never looked like scoring because he doesn’t understand what positions to take up. Zirkzee can’t control a ball. There are no real options. He has to go into the market in Jan

As for doing nothing after. Haaland has games where he does nothing and scores, and he’s lauded for it

Stop piling on Rashford, his role today was to score, he had 1 chance and scored.
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He`s a WUM dont waste your time
 
JammyRed said:
He`s a WUM dont waste your time
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He’s not a WUM ffs, he’s somebody that appears to care passionately about the club, not so sure about some of the others contributors mind ....

Somebody has got a pan of Scouse on the go, I keep getting a nasty whiff
 
I think Marcus has shot himself in the foot, and given a huge insight to Ruben Amorim. Fair enough he scored, but it was a tap in. After that, he was anonymous against a bottom three side. Poor work rate and application. I think Amorim gave Marcus a platform to shine on Sunday and unfortunately I feel he has ultimately failed. The minimum this manager expects is full application and work rate., and he would not have liked Marcus' body language after the second minute onwards.
 
Also, when he is scoring goals for fun like Haaland then we will let him off his work rate too.
 
Mr C said:
Stop piling on Rashford, his role today was to score, he had 1 chance and scored.
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Never piled in on Rashford. Pointed out he's not a number 10. Also you spent 9 months criticising the club after every win, draw or loss so I find it damn hypocritical that suddenly someone isn't allowed to give it back when we perform so poorly.

Genuinely think you guys have forgot how toxic you were and no it isn't suddenly rosey because ETH is gone.

As for being a wum. I wish I was im just fecked off with the fans hounding out managers. Amorim has my full support. Our online fan base I despise.
 
JammyRed said:
He`s a WUM dont waste your time
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You'll only realise how ridiculously stupid you make yourself look with this sentence when I tell you me and Carrot have been interacting about United for 19 years and when I left the forum he was the first person to contact me and tell me to come back and check in on my mental health. He knows I'm not a WUM just have a POV that I'm obviously aggrieved by because I hate seeing managers sacked when it's on the players.

(And perhaps a little more so with MrC because he was always inclined to agree with me and don't sack the manager give it time)

I vehemently believe a manager should get at least 3 seasons before you can expect it to be their squad and have full change. And all the ETH outers would have had Fergie gone before he won a single trophy. You don't win titles by changing your manager every 26 months.
 
RVN said:
air enough he scored, but it was a tap in.
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I think the difference is, Hojlund and Zirkzee probably wouldn't have taken that position, they don't seem to have that instinct, they probably would have been back post. I certainly don't think Rashford is a 10, but out the players we have, sadly he's probably the best option imo.
IDFD said:
Never piled in on Rashford. Pointed out he's not a number 10. Also you spent 9 months criticising the club after every win, draw or loss so I find it damn hypocritical that suddenly someone isn't allowed to give it back when we perform so poorly
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I think I was fair, I never had a pop at Rashford, Bruno I gave a hard time to sometimes. I said I like Hojlund but didn't think he was good enough to lead the line for us yet, said Zirkzee was awful.

There weren't many wins to celebrate to be honest. It felt to me like the club needed a change.

I think I was fair. I gave ETH a chance, but it just wasn't working. It was his team, and we had few wins and were in the bottom half of the table. I think it's normal a manager at a club like united would be sacked under those circustances.

Oh, I also criticised INEOS a little. :p

IDFD said:
(And perhaps a little more so with MrC because he was always inclined to agree with me and don't sack the manager give it time)
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I get that, and I felt dirty doing it, but he was just doing my head in, was out his depth.
 
IDFD said:
You'll only realise how ridiculously stupid you make yourself look with this sentence when I tell you me and Carrot have been interacting about United for 19 years and when I left the forum he was the first person to contact me and tell me to come back and check in on my mental health. He knows I'm not a WUM just have a POV that I'm obviously aggrieved by because I hate seeing managers sacked when it's on the players.

(And perhaps a little more so with MrC because he was always inclined to agree with me and don't sack the manager give it time)

I vehemently believe a manager should get at least 3 seasons before you can expect it to be their squad and have full change. And all the ETH outers would have had Fergie gone before he won a single trophy. You don't win titles by changing your manager every 26 months.
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I’ll never look as stupid as you that’s nailed on, but crack on losing your shit over ETH it’s quite comical reading your rants, the club did him a favour sacking him he’d lost the plot with his inexplicable substitutions, team selections and players he brought in many of who are championship level, yes we get it it’s not just about the manager but there wasn’t enough progress in his third season in fact it was going in the wrong direction as the table shows.
Now shove that xG where the sun don’t shine and accept the truth.
 
JammyRed said:
I’ll never look as stupid as you that’s nailed on, but crack on losing your shit of ETH it’s quite comical reading your rants, the club did him a favour sacking him he’d lost the plot with his inexplicable substitutions, team selections and players he brought in many of who are championship level, yes we get it it’s not just about the manager but there wasn’t enough progress in his third season in fact it was going in the wrong direction as the table shows.
Now shove that xG where the sun don’t shine and accept the truth.
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No progress, huh, we’ve gone from having a team that was regularly left wide-open
because the forwards/midfielders switched off when we lost possession, to having a team that has conceded less goals than the teams currently first and second in the League table - if that is not progress I give up
 
Justin Cider said:
No progress, huh, we’ve gone from having a team that was regularly left wide-open
because the forwards/midfielders switched off when we lost possession, to having a team that has conceded less goals than the teams currently first and second in the League table - if that is not progress I give up
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Give up then lemon, ETH didn’t get the forwards scoring did he? It has to be happening at both ends of the pitch.
For the millionth time look at the league table.
Top 4 is where the money is.
 
JammyRed said:
Give up then lemon, ETH didn’t get the forwards scoring did he? It has to be happening at both ends of the pitch.
For the millionth time look at the league table.
Top 4 is where the money is.
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Not sure why anybody would pay too much attention to League positions before January at the earliest ....

You don’t want much do you, there were two issues, tighten-up, and create, correction, take more of the chances created, you can’t fix both at the same time, obviously, a competent Manager would fix the tightening-up first, he did that, he then needed to find/coach 6 players who play with game intelligence that are also team players, easier said than done - he didn’t get the chance to do that though - least said soonest mended ....
 
Justin Cider said:
Not sure why anybody would pay too much attention to League positions before January at the earliest ....

You don’t want much do you, there were two issues, tighten-up, and create, correction, take more of the chances created, you can’t fix both at the same time, obviously, a competent Manager would fix the tightening-up first, he did that, he then needed to find/coach 6 players who play with game intelligence that are also team players, easier said than done - he didn’t get the chance to do that though - least said soonest mended ....
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I don’t want much? He was in his 3rd season.
Jesus wept Amorim is get stick after one fkn game, what planet are you on?
 
He couldn't find the balance the team either scored loads and let loads in or didn't score and didn't concede.

Not saying he's totally to blame for that but really if you look at the results for the final 12 months of his time at the club it was a lot closer to relegation form that title challenging form.

When the new board took over they've basically gone through at every level and sacked every decision maker at the club over the last decade and replaced them with their own guy it was only a matter of time before ETH got the chop unless he came up with a quick fix at the start of this season.

Wasn't nice but that's football he gets his pay off and he'll get another job after the break.

As for Rashford Amorim becomes the latest manager to try and get something out of this guy on a consistent basis. My gut feeling is Amorim will give up on him pretty quickly the question will be who do the club back Amorim or Rashford as my guess he won't establish himself as a starter under Amorim.
 
I think Rashford’s time is coming to an end, you can only go on what you see.
If that last display was trying to win a new manager over it failed miserably…tap in goal or not.
 
he's a good chance of getting money in to buy a decent striker.

But others should go first
 
JammyRed said:
I don’t want much? He was in his 3rd season.
Jesus wept Amorim is get stick after one fkn game, what planet are you on?
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He’s not getting stick ffs, stop being a drama queen

Over the road we’ve got everybody, even the Liverpool mafia in the press feeling sorry for Pep because they are missing one key player, one fecking player, whereas EtH had to cope with having 5/6/7 players, and oft a lot more missing for the vast majority of his matches in charge, no sympathy for EtH is there, same with King Louis before him.

Do you really think SAF would have achieved what he did, and don’t forget it took him 5 seasons to start being successful, if he had to go into every match with a 3rd of his squad missing because of injury
 
Justin Cider said:
He’s not getting stick ffs, stop being a drama queen

Over the road we’ve got everybody, even the Liverpool mafia in the press feeling sorry for Pep because they are missing one key player, one fecking player, whereas EtH had to cope with having 5/6/7 players, and oft a lot more missing for the vast majority of his matches in charge, no sympathy for EtH is there, same with King Louis before him.

Do you really think SAF would have achieved what he did, and don’t forget it took him 5 seasons to start being successful, if he had to go into every match with a 3rd of his squad missing because of injury
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I give up with you, you can’t read.
 
Mr C said:
ETH wasn't up to the job. That's why he was sacked. Lets move on
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No chance of that, Fergie’s still being talked about on here about his poor start.
You never know Tommy Doc might get a mention soon.. :p
 
JammyRed said:
I give up with you, you can’t read.
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You give up because you know I'm right ....

I can read Englander very well thank hue, I intilligent enuff to know when somebody is pulling on somebodies leg, innit, me no oh I must pounce my response, I saw offended, it no fair, Mummy!!!!!!
 
Justin Cider said:
You give up because you know I'm right ....

I can read Englander very well thank hue, I intilligent enuff to know when somebody is pulling on somebodies leg, innit, me no oh I must pounce my response, I saw offended, it no fair, Mummy!!!!!!
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Iv never known you to be right, not once. More gibberish go and have a lie down lemon.
 
None of the top sides are going to touch this guy now we’ve backed him with the big bucks deal so likely stuck with him.

I don’t think Sunday was a lack of effort it’s just a lack of impact the things he does don’t trouble defenders either on the wing or in the centre.

Off the ball he tries to press but he doesn’t spot the moments early enough to actually get pressure on the ball and win it back.

His movement isn’t challenging defenders with runs in behind when he plays central.

When it’s played up to him he rarely wins a 50/50.

If he comes deep he doesn’t then bring others into the play.

He doesn’t know how to “work” a defence and tire them out without even touching the ball. Haaland is very good at this even going back a few years Hernandez was great at it. Constantly making centre backs move and think and eventually they make a mistake. When I watch him up front he’s so easy to mark.

When the ball goes into the box he might as well not be there. He can’t make a bad ball into a chance.

I do wonder if he’s lost a bit of his explosive speed. Defenders can stay with him now he’s no longer able to just leave a guy behind when he tries to go past him in space.

His shooting is still very good few players strike a ball as well as he does.

Despite all of this I still like him but the reality here is we are paying him Ronaldo wages for Nani ability.
 

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