Jadon Sancho | Match Discussion Thread 2023/24

If true then it shows he has a complete disrespect for the manager and the club. He should be showing he can be a professional and turn up on time for training at least!

Wasting his career and he should be thankful he’s here because he’s not getting a big move after his attitude/form here.
 
we don't know this is true, so I am not going to slag him off.

Its telling that it would surprise none of us though
 
He needs to grow up and stop sulking. I mean, reportedly turning up late for training and playing FIFA at 3am, c'mon. His ongoing behaviour seems to indicate he does not want to reintegrate back into the club. The best thing Sancho can do is to change his advisors as the advice he is receiving from them has been appalling.
 
RVN said:
He needs to grow up and stop sulking. I mean, reportedly turning up late for training and playing FIFA at 3am, c'mon. His ongoing behaviour seems to indicate he does not want to reintegrate back into the club. The best thing Sancho can do is to change his advisors as the advice he is receiving from them has been appalling.
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Not sure, think his agent will be telling him he's an idiot, the problem is he will have family members and hangers-on saying "you're in the right here bro, eleven hags is a bitch, innit"
 
don't believe everything you read.

All I know is, he isn't allowed anywhere the first team or their fascilities, because ETH actually said that. Everything else is about as reliable as we're signing Sneijder
 
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From Laurie Whitwell’s article published today:

“In that proxy war, Jadon Sancho took the public route. Ten Hag’s disappointment with Sancho over his application came to a head during a training session before the Arsenal game in September. Sancho did not commit to pressing as an “opposition” player in the practice match in the way Ten Hag wanted. Sancho was offered the chance to end his involvement early, which he took by walking off the pitch. Ten Hag referenced Sancho’s training levels after the Arsenal defeat and the player responded with his infamous social media post, accusing him of double standards and effectively calling his manager a liar.“
 
Sideshow Bob said:
From Laurie Whitwell’s article published today:

“In that proxy war, Jadon Sancho took the public route. Ten Hag’s disappointment with Sancho over his application came to a head during a training session before the Arsenal game in September. Sancho did not commit to pressing as an “opposition” player in the practice match in the way Ten Hag wanted. Sancho was offered the chance to end his involvement early, which he took by walking off the pitch. Ten Hag referenced Sancho’s training levels after the Arsenal defeat and the player responded with his infamous social media post, accusing him of double standards and effectively calling his manager a liar.“
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Walked off the pitch? I’d fine the little coward a months pay.
 
Sideshow Bob said:
From Laurie Whitwell’s article published today:

“In that proxy war, Jadon Sancho took the public route. Ten Hag’s disappointment with Sancho over his application came to a head during a training session before the Arsenal game in September. Sancho did not commit to pressing as an “opposition” player in the practice match in the way Ten Hag wanted. Sancho was offered the chance to end his involvement early, which he took by walking off the pitch. Ten Hag referenced Sancho’s training levels after the Arsenal defeat and the player responded with his infamous social media post, accusing him of double standards and effectively calling his manager a liar.“
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Don't like this coming out. Dressing room leak or one of the players that's left?
 
I agree, got to find the mole and get rid.

Might not be true if course. Seems very unprofessional, even for Sancho
 
Few directors who’ve left as well, unlikely the source will ever be known.

I suspect it’s a story that’s done the rounds within football circles just never been made public until now.
 
Its funny how fans believe things or call BS depending on if they like the player.

I don't want to think a united player, or any professional footballer, would walk off a training pitch when being told to do more.

If true, sad times. But I cannot believe this story
 
I can believe it he has form for laziness and poor attitude at different clubs, Sancho`s fans reaaaly wanted him to do well back at Dortmund to "prove" Ten Hag was the one in the wrong, but he really didn't, he had half a good game and his fans were creaming their jeans its laughable.

Forget the issues with Ten Hag for a moment and look at his time with United based purely on his football what has he done under the 3 managers? he`s been a massive flop despite the huge fee paid and extortionate wages and thats the truth.
 
Funny how Sebastian Kehl, has given many good updates on Sancho over the course of him being at Dortmund. The most recent stating that Sancho improved their team and that he would be looking at opening negotiations with us again once the loan ends. This is not something you do with a player that doesn't work hard in training.

You need to accept that Sancho has been a success at Dortmund.

Also nobody cares about 8 years ago. It's the now that matters the most. He's found some kind of happiness again, and it's away from UTD. You need to accept that it might just have been us that was the problem.
 
German league has nothing like the intensity of the PL and playing for United definitely is something that some cant handle.
You need to accept that he`s been crap for United.

show me some really great highlights at his time with United, I cant wait.
 
I do accept that he's been crap for us, 100%. Just thought with a little bit of help, and a coach/manager that knows his players, we might of made some use of him.

Right now though I'm in agreement with the people saying he's done here. He'll be sold this summer if it's possible.
 
Sancho was not a success at Dortmund. Media hyperbole and trying to create friction and drive their narrative would tell you he was a success. He had 1 very good game. Surprised as someone that states he watches all the football you are trotting out the line Sancho was good.
 
Kehl said it, not me. I don't watch Dortmund and already said as much.

You have a real hard-on for me, huh?

Love you too.
 
Jayc1860 said:
Kehl said it, not me. I don't watch Dortmund and already said as much.

You have a real hard-on for me, huh?

Love you too.
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I have a hard on for watching football and understanding what actually happened.

Sancho was poor for Dortmund and their fans aren't interested in him returning.

If you haven't watched him at Dortmund why are you going on about him being a success there?
 
I am not a Sancho fan either, if that was directed at me.

Just saying people who hate him, really hate him for some reason

Ralf said he had no problems with Sancho, trained well, dedicated and professional. So you can believe whatever report you want.

He hasn't done anything in a united shirt, so sell for sure. All the other stuff, I am 50/50 whether I take it a full value

Even if he is lazy, that is different from petulant. Walking off a traing pitch, I just don't wan't to believe that

but I try not to believe most things online these days
 
Rangnick had him for all of 6 month he might not have had issues with him in that short spell. I would hardly see that as a ringing endorsement.

The walk off story came from a pretty well sourced Utd journalist through an outlet where clickbait nonsense is discouraged.

It is probably more common that you might think but if a player isn’t fully focused on the session you need to remove them from it which seems to be what happened.

There were rumours that Utd were willing to sell him last summer, my guess is Ten Hag has wanted him out for a while just doesn’t fit what he wants from players attitude wise. That’s bubbled up all summer and eventually they’ve reached a tipping point that caused the mess we’ve had this season.

As for Dortmund and their directors if they love him so much pay the £40m and have him.
 
Why would Sancho give up the stupid wages. He'll be happy for a loan.

Just dismiss Ralf opinion then. Which is the only fact we have, because we saw his lips move
 
Because Man Utd clearly is a place where he’s unhappy likely both on and off the pitch, he seems to love it at Dortmund.

Money isn’t everything in life and I’m sure a deal can be worked out where he comes off pretty well out of it all.

Not dismissing it at all just saying it’s a short window in the past where he said something 18 months after leaving Utd and I’m happy to take it at face value.

It’s a lot easier to say something nice about a player on the record than it is to slag them off.
 
Can I please point out he was poor for Dortmund. No one thinks he was good. He had one good game. That was it.

We have another fact. ETH telling us he had a poor attitude in training. Not sure why Ralfs 18 month old opinion would mean more than the manager in charge.

I get the media wants to tell you different but it's very easy to go back and watch these games and see he's been poor for 3 years at both United and Dortmund.
 
Every post i have said he's been poor and needs selling.

What I say is ETH should have handled it differently.
 
For the hundredth time ETH did all he could including giving the wimp 3 months out to get his poor little head out, ETH really did all he could to help Sancho and must have felt somewhat betrayed in the end after he got nothing in return, going public will have been out of frustration and not knowing what else he could do and I dont think that was wrong on that occasion.

And no Im not an ETH fan Im really on the fence at this moment in time because no manager would have succeeded pre Ineos.
 
I give up. Nobody is listening to the point I am making.

I say something, a poster comments on something different
 
Mr C said:
I give up. Nobody is listening to the point I am making.

I say something, a poster comments on something different
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I have responded to your point, your saying it should have been handled differently
I’m saying in this case after trying everything ETH got it right
I’m not usually for going public but you can only do so much for someone and it looks he tried everything
 

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