Ivan Toney

jsp said:
It doesn’t require a front but my point is he would need to adapt to us and us to him, it might not fit if you starve him of chances like we do Hojlund. In a 2 you play a lot closer to your main team mate than you do in the 3 behind system and in Mbeumo he’s got a mate who does a lot of the channel runs for him. They’re a lethal frontline and I enjoy watching them.

I don’t favour Hojlund I just think he should be given a chance in his second full season to improve and show he’s got what it takes. There are a lot of good things about him but still big flaws to address to become a complete number 9. He’s got some competition now with Zirkzee the two of them will hopefully push each other to reach their potential.

Watched Toney loads of times even saw him make his professional debut so I know him very well. He is a very good striker and is good enough to play at the very top level I just don’t think we need him. At the start of the summer if it was £40m for Zirkzee or £50m for Toney I’d have said go for Toney but now we’ve signed Zirkzee we need to back him and trust him to deliver.

There are loads of pluses but the club have already made their move so we need to see how that plays out this season.
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Personally, I don't see the problem in buying Toney as well. I think competition for places is very healthy, and also gives us another totally different option up top. Like I said before he has the ability in the air we are seriously lacking, and would help for set-plays, which we are horrific with. Zirkzee is quite tall, but doesn't have anywhere close to the level of heading ability as Toney. Hojlund in that reagrd is totally useless.

However I can also see your point. Some people are saying the same as you, that we should back our current two and give them equal playing time, and the support to grow. This also makes sense. The downside to this is that maybe neither of them score enough goals, or put in performances good enough to damage opposition and we could well end up in the same position as last season. With Toney, I feel we will have goals guaranteed.

But yeah, I'm not going to be heartbroken if it doesn't happen. I am still happy enough to see how it plays out, as it's only two games in and things in football can change very quickly.
 
United, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle all need/could do with another striker yet not one of them have made a move for Toney, should be obvious why ....
 
Think he’s going to end up at Chelsea because… Well everyone seems to. I’m really surprised Arsenal aren’t keen though.
 
I reckon if that’s the only move available then why not spend a year there and get some mega money and then come back to Europe.

I’ve seen a few players have a release clause over there if a European club was to come in for them.
 
If he goes to Saudi he can't come back to the UK for 2 years due to the tax reasons.

So if he left Saudi he'd have to join a club in Europe unless he wants to pay a massive tax bill.
 
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Can still see him ending up at United, Arsenal or Chelsea on loan with an obligation to buy next season, now the Saudis have flushed out Brentford's selling price
 
Be surprised if one of these clubs came into the picture this late I reckon it's Saudi for him now or play another season at Brentford and go on a free to a big club next summer.
 
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Clubs are all wary of PSR now and none of the big clubs are desperate to make a luxury signing knowing there is no resale value.

I really though West Ham would be the perfect move for him.

Think clubs maybe wary if the gambling issue.
 

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