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- May 8, 2011
I would like United to sign Toney in January. Do we think Brentford would sell/United spend big in January? What transfer fee would he likely command? Is he the answer?
I'm assuming that it'll come out that he placed bets on football, or passed along insider knowledge to others who profited from it. Unless he was actively fixing matches or manipulating prop bets, I don't have a massive problem with it. The reaction to a player placing bets on his own team to win matches is disproportionate to real offences that actually harm people, like horror tackles or performance enhancing substances. It's all about protecting football's lucrative relationship with betting firms and less about the actual severity of the crime. Same reason why taking your shirt off is an automatic yellow card, to stop players from revealing messages that can impact sponsors.
Still a stupid thing for Toney to do, knowing the punishment.
The rules are there to protect the bookies and ensure their profitability. By extension, sports leagues profit from gambling through increased interest, tv ratings, sponsorships and where legal, partnerships with various casinos/sports books/websites etc and want to protect that relationship.It is more complex than that as gambling laws require both sides in a bet to have access to the same information when placing a bet. If you have inside info you are putting the bookie at a disadvantage and therefore looking to deceive the bookmaker taking the bet.
Toney will be well aware of the rules, players are constantly reminded of them.
If it’s all true he’s made a massive mistake and it will cost him time on the pitch and maybe damage his reputation enough to turn big clubs and the England side off him.
The rules are there to protect the bookies and ensure their profitability. By extension, sports leagues profit from gambling through increased interest, tv ratings, sponsorships and where legal, partnerships with various casinos/sports books/websites etc and want to protect that relationship.
Toney was stupid and either has an addiction or exhibited a lack of judgement and is going to be punished accordingly. It wouldn't stop me from signing him (unless there is evidence of match fixing or an addiction that will lead to repeated suspensions) or tarnish his reputation in my eyes.
Hell, the greatest basketball player of all time gambled millions and millions, and you can't tell me he didn't bet on the one thing he knows better than anything else.
Paltry fine, it'll be less than a months wages to him.
Got off lightly.
I assume Brentford will stop paying him as he’s unable to fulfil his obligations under his contract.
Also, probably cost him the chance of a big transfer this summer and maybe his international career.
He would be an option for Utd, Chelsea and Spurs (if Kane left) this summer and that move would come with the 5 year set for life deal. That window may now be missed.
The FA could do with banning betting companies from sponsoring clubs and advertising in grounds.
Not sure Brentford would do that even if they were able, he's still a potential £60/70m asset and they need to keep him onside so i'd be very surprised if he doesn't stay on full wages.
Well he won't move in the Summer, but no doubt somebody will put a cheeky bid in to test the water, and Internationally he'll be fine, he got his debut after the story broke and it was obvious he faced a significant time out of the game.
He'll still get his big move, just maybe a year later than he and his agent planned.
I wouldn't bet on the FA doing that with the amount of money they make out of the advertising.