Glazers to consider selling Manchester United? Official: Ratcliffe Acquires 25% of United shares

something needs resolving rapidly here, because the club is unravelling at the seams.

We could be too late for the Jan window. Or it might just be right off another season, again. Go again in the summer.

But wtih no CL, and being such a mess, recruitment will be difficult.
 
Nothing is going to happen quickly though it will take months for this deal to go through and by the sound of things it's a long way from even being agreed and the Glazers are notoriously slow.

The latest financial results are pretty damning of the clubs financial health.

Turnover is healthy and showing signs of growth but the debt when you include the liabilities the club has on transfers is still up around £1bn.

It feels like a massive house of cards right now and a couple of bad shocks to it could see it crumble.
 
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Are the Glazer's going to match his investment as 51% owners and stick £500m back in towards building the stadium?

£750m of owner funding before going to the banks to borrow the rest makes a stadium possible.
 
Got to speculate to accumulate sometimes in business.

If they want the extra value in their shares that will come from a new stadium they need to get it built sooner rather than later.

Pigs will fly before they spend a penny of their own money on the club though.
 
Rumours are SJR will be in over the International break, maybe even Monday
 
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Unless it's already been signed off by the board which seems unlikely as they'd need to notify the stock exchange of the sale it all sounds very optimistic.
 
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Seemed a lot more willing than his predecessor to hand over the control of football decisions to others but can't be an easy job.

I'm sure the money is decent but I doubt it's spectacular Utd isn't a huge business their revenue is still measured in millions not billions but there are so many eyes on them at all times because of the industry they're operating in. The pressure and focus that must come from that can't be an easy thing to leave at the door as you walk out of the office at night.

Does suggest that wheels are in motion for this new investment to come in and it's probably a good time for a new CEO to come in with a clean slate.
 
it means the sh!t show is about to get much worse, come in mid season, not even in yet, and senior people leaving.

I don't think ETH will last this
 
The person acting as the interim has been there over 10 years.

Probably good to come in mid season get a feel for all the issues and have plans in place for the summer to address them.

That applies to all level from Murtough as the football director down to the ground staff. Where are all the pain points in the structure of the clubs and which ones can be fixed quickly and easily and which ones will take more time.

Football is a strange industry because you basically get 3 months to make changes to your team both on and off the pitch then you get 9 months to plan for the next season.

It wasn't perfect at Nice mistakes were made, hopefully they've been learned from and we will miss the step where they kind of broke it before fixing it again.
 
I think Brailsford should be nowhere near a major football club. It's just getting another clueless person in charge. So I would say the club is not learning.

The rumour is, Patrick Stewart will leave once take over is completed too.
 
Mr C said:
I think Brailsford should be nowhere near a major football club. It's just getting another clueless person in charge. So I would say the club is not learning.

The rumour is, Patrick Stewart will leave once take over is completed too.
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We don't know how hands on Brailsford will be his job is at INEOS overseeing their sporting ventures we don't really know how involved he is with any of them. Sounds like he's an advisor to Radcliffe rather than a man running things day to day he'll likely be involved in the hiring and firing and setting up the way INEOS want things to run.

I don't think he'll be picking players or managers he'll be picking the replacement for Murtough if he's going to be replaced.

The rumours seem to be there's a guy called Jean-Claude Blanc coming in as the new Chief Exec he was at Juventus and PSG previously and rumours that Paul Mitchell will go in to replace Murtough.
 
He is heavily involved with Nice, so I imagine he won't want to miss out on being involved in united.

And if he is, we know we are in for more of the same as the last few years. Clowns running the show
 
I'll take your word on Nice I don't follow them that closely my understanding was he unsettled the existing regime there (who were doing a good job) when INEOS took over and they left. The people he got in to replace them didn't work out and he's now replaced them.

Currently 2nd after a good start to the season.

Utd need change so having people involved who've been through that process at other clubs can only be a good thing. Mistakes will have been made but as long as they have learnt from them then to me that's a positive.

If I had the choice I'd base myself in Nice a lovely part of the world.
 
Few rumours that Arnold leaving is down to his relationship with the Glazers deteriorating he’s called them out and pushed back on things since taking charge which hasn’t gone down well.
 
If they are leaving football matters to SJR I'm not sure of the relevance. Sounds like BS
 
Surely even SJR represents a marginal gain ;) on the Glazers when it comes to running a football club
 
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Just been reading that an owner cannot have two teams in the same European competition

So if Nice finish in a higher league postion than united, and they both qualify for the CL. united get dropped. And vice versa.
 
I believe there are ways around this as both Leipzig and Salzburg have played in Champions League together, not sure it would apply to Utd as INEOS are only a minority investor all they need to do is demonstrate that the club have two separate boards.

These rules are also likely to change very soon based on a speech Ceferin gave recently the multi club model is likely here to stay.

By this logic if Girona win La Liga and City were to finish runners up in the prem then City would also be bumped down. The City group have a majority stake in both clubs so that would really test out this rule.
 
I think Leipzig and Salzburg got round it by having completely different boards or something
 
Yeah they found the loophole that satisfied UEFA and Utd will likely have to apply the same thing so we won't be able to have any board members who sit on the board of both clubs.

Seems a pretty easy work around to me.

I don't think Sir Jim would sit on the board at Utd anyway he'd appoint someone to represent INEOS.
 
with an ear piece :p


You wouldn't think it was possible to drag this out any longer would you
 
Mergers and Acquisitions move slowly there will be lawyers on both sides going back and forward negotiating the terms of the deal, they then need to present the final deal to the current board for approval then announce it to the stock exchange.

The complex way the Glazers have set the share ownership up makes things even more confusing as we have Class A shares and Class B shares again the lawyers will need to work through that process before the sale can go through. From memory to sell a Class B share (all owned by the Glazers) they need to first convert them into Class A shares which are the ones on the stock exchange.

After that INEOS as a significant shareholder will probably need to go through some sort of premier league approval process which can take 6-8 weeks apparently.

Think people just need to be realistic with time scales and accept that any speculation on time is likely nonsense unless everyone suddenly starts telling the same story at the same time. Much like a transfer the moment you know it's happening is when every reporter has the same story at the same time.

Sounds to me like it'll probably be Feb/March before things are sorted out and official.
 
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I don't think we'll know it's happening until a few hours before it's announced.

Everyone is bound by NDA's so no one with actual knowledge will be talking.

It's been a week away for about 2 months.
 
He’s got some big calls on the footballing side of things when this all gets officially announced.

Obviously the big one is whether to stick with ETH and how much transfer kitty could be available in January.

Getting rid of some players must be high on the agenda.

Also further down the line, the Greenwood situation is still something to be decided.
 

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