David De Gea leaves United

IDFD said:
The defence Onana has infront of him is as good as any defence De Gea has infront of him 2013 onwards. It's excuses.
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If it was a settled defence then yes maybe but it has not been settled so far. There has been injuries and careless mistakes. It’s hard to organise an unsettled defence in such a short amount of time.

Continuity is key to a cohesive defensive unit and we’ve had so many injuries this season that the team as a whole just looks out of whack.

I just don’t get how we are suddenly forgetting how bad De Gea was at times in the last couple of years. Yes he got lots of clean sheets last season but he also had some inexplicable errors. Also this shots to goals ratio is nonsense to me. You can mention any stat to create a negative argument. De Gea pretty much conceded with every shot Liverpool had last season in the 7-0 but he has being championed again?
 
De Gea was excellent last season until the club crapped all over him and his head went. He's still available, we should look at getting him back to stop this shambles
 
IDFD said:
No one else wanted Onana.

Anyone that thinks Onana is a better keeper than even the current De Gea is a bare faced liar.

And i'm yet to see this commanding of the defence he's supposed to be good at. Maybe if he was we'd see them improve not get worse infront of him.
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The guy who’s just been nominated for goalkeeper of the year? You are talking about a guy with a price tag of 50m not a guy on a free. Also, last summer on a free he was snapped up by Inter before his contract even expired. De Gea has been out of contract for 3 months and he’s not been linked to anyone.

They are not liars they just don’t hold the same opinion you do. Onana made 2 decent saves late in the game from Mitoma and Fati and made a potential game winning save away to Arsenal from Saka.

On the last bit what do you actually expect him to do? He’s helped on crosses for a start teams can’t just drop the ball in our 6 yard box centre of goal on every set piece because Onana deals with them. Can he really tell Casemiro or Eriksen to track runners for cut backs?

I don’t think Onana has been fantastic but he deserves a chance to settle in. It was 100% time to move on.

The team as a hole has been playing crap apart from maybe AWB not one players is playing anywhere near their best and that is a massive problem.
 
Mr C said:
De Gea was excellent last season until the club crapped all over him and his head went. He's still available, we should look at getting him back to stop this shambles
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This just isn’t true

Brentford away let in a weak shot and then played a horrible pass into Eriksen which resulted in another goal.
Everton FA Cup let a ball squeeze through his legs.

Im sure there are more examples.
 
Mr C said:
De Gea was excellent last season until the club crapped all over him and his head went. He's still available, we should look at getting him back to stop this shambles
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They say the first thing that goes is your memory ;)

Yeah i'm sure that would help :rolleyes:
 
The top 100+ clubs in Europe have submitted their 25 man squads for European football up until January, and the Saudis have been throwing money around like a drunken sailor yet Spain's 7/8th choice keeper is at home doing the washing, cooking and cleaning while his missus is out everyday trying to fool somebody into thinking she's an actual singer! How the mighty have fallen.
 
Yep a keeper who was apparently excellent last season can't find a team.

Is he pricing himself out of moves or are teams just not interested.
 
It's lovely not going into a cold-sweat every time it's obvious we are going to have to pass back to the keeper to go forward.
 
Justin Cider said:
It's lovely not going into a cold-sweat every time it's obvious we are going to have to pass back to the keeper to go forward.
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this I agree with,

Although he needs to sort his long kick, more often than not it's to an opposition player
 
Mr C said:
this I agree with,

Although he needs to sort his long kick, more often than not it's to an opposition player
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Not noticed anything worrying, and as long as the ball is a long way from our area does it matter. And as his kicking is normally that good long and short maybe it's a tactic, weirder things have happened ....
 
Reports in Spain that Real Betis and Valencia are interested in signing him.
 
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Looks likes he finally found himself a club!
 
It's a hard life, putting your feet up for a year living off the interest of your multi-millions, then going to live in one of the most beautiful Cities in the world, stay strong Dave ....
 
He was clearly pricing himself out of moves last summer and after a year off he's lowered his wage expectations to a point where clubs can afford him.

Maybe him and the Mrs have decided a year or two living in Florence sounds nice.
 
justintime said:
Without this stuff about playing from the back DeGea would have a top keeper at any club.
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Nah, strikers had learned if you aim for his body he struggled, he was finished at the top level, yeah always pull of a worldie going into the top corner but the rest, no.
 
I disagree his all round game I think declined steadily he was letting in soft goals from outside the box due to poor handling regularly in his final few seasons. Obviously he'd still pull of some absolutely unreal reflex saves for the highlight reel but costly mistakes were a problem.
 
jsp said:
I disagree his all round game I think declined steadily he was letting in soft goals from outside the box due to poor handling regularly in his final few seasons. Obviously he'd still pull of some absolutely unreal reflex saves for the highlight reel but costly mistakes were a problem.
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Not the final few seasons but one very bad season but not the last one.
 
justintime said:
Not the final few seasons but one very bad season but not the last one.
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I felt De Gea hit his peak in 2017-18 but after that he was never the same again.

In his final season I can think of at least 3 pretty tame shots from outside the box that he let go under him.

He was a fantastic player for Utd but it was the right time to move on and it wasn't just his kicking that was a problem by the end.
 
jsp said:
I felt De Gea hit his peak in 2017-18 but after that he was never the same again.

In his final season I can think of at least 3 pretty tame shots from outside the box that he let go under him.

He was a fantastic player for Utd but it was the right time to move on and it wasn't just his kicking that was a problem by the end.
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Sure he let in some soft goals but how many almost impossible saves did he pull off? Plenty.
 
justintime said:
Sure he let in some soft goals but how many almost impossible saves did he pull off? Plenty.
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Making great saves doesn't give you a get out of jail free card for letting in a couple of pea rollers. You can give a keeper 1 of them a season as mistakes happen but much like our current keeper this was happening with Dave far to regularly by the end of his time at the club.

As my original post said he could still pull out the occasional worldie but the number of soft ones getting past him was on the rise especially shots from outside the box.
 
jsp said:
Making great saves doesn't give you a get out of jail free card for letting in a couple of pea rollers. You can give a keeper 1 of them a season as mistakes happen but much like our current keeper this was happening with Dave far to regularly by the end of his time at the club.

As my original post said he could still pull out the occasional worldie but the number of soft ones getting past him was on the rise especially shots from outside the box.
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In that final season wasn't he in good form until the club offered him a deal he accepted and then they rescinded? I'd imagine his head was all over the place which is the last thing you want as a keeper.
 
IDFD said:
In that final season wasn't he in good form until the club offered him a deal he accepted and then they rescinded? I'd imagine his head was all over the place which is the last thing you want as a keeper.
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Well the timeline over that whole thing seems to be sketchy as both sides tell different stories. We don't know exactly when the contract was offered and then withdrawn but his mistakes didn't all come at the end of the season. My memory of it was he was up and down all season.

Brentford was the second game of the season, I remember one vs Everton around Christmas time (might have been the FA cup), West Ham was late in the season then the one in the cup final. Didn't he do something silly in one of the Seville games?

I didn't like the way it all played out but I think they came to the right decision it was time for De Gea to move on and I hope it goes well for him at Fiorentina. De Gea had plenty of opportunity to sort his contract out but he was happy to run it down in a game of bluff with Utd and they called his bluff and he was gone.

How wise a decision it was to bring in Onana as the replacement is still up for debate, at the moment I'd say it looks a poor decision but he deserves this season to turn it around.
 
Was it time for him to be replaced? I have no issues with that but as a shot stopper he has been better than Onana and not only during his time at United. Time will tell if Onana is a better keeper or not but I am not sure he ever will be. There are much better keepers than Onana and that position could have been filled this year instead of getting Onana and getting a top quality DM instead of a short time replacement like Cas.
 

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