Anthony reported to police in Brazil

Mr C said:
so it's confidential, nobody knows, but you can call it bulls***, because somehow you know.

I'd say the fact she raised it to the Brazillian police, something is in it..

We shall see
Click to expand...

I'll call BS because she has no idea if there's been a cover up and the fact she's gone to the press while the police are investigating to me stinks.

I think it's a tabloid hack tactic to get Utd into the story for some extra headlines.

My opinion is there's a very slim chance that anyone at Utd was told about it and attempted to cover it up and until she decides to report it to the police there is nothing to cover up.

A cover up would imply that the club tried to apply pressure to her to keep quiet which I doubt happened especially with the on going Greenwood issue and the absolute sh*t storm it would create if anyone ever found out.

I wouldn't be surprised if something has happened here that needs sorting out we know he's a hot head and it sounds like their relationship was not a healthy one.
 
Mr C said:
It's not finding fault. It's facts.

I'll follow your lead. Handled the Greenwood case perfectly, couldn't have done better :rolleyes:

Also, to be fair, what the club is excellent at, is making it easy to find fault.
Click to expand...

Go on then Brains of Britain how would you have handled the Greenwood case?

And i'm guessing you'd have suspend Antony straight away, what happens when it's 'proven' that she is just on the take, which is almost certainly the case. You only have to listen to her and her Solicitor to come to that conclusion.
 
Greenwood, once the police had closed their case. They should have looked at getting him out on loan then. Everybody knew it would cause a fuss. To spend another 6 months or whatever it was, doing a review, then start saying things like we’ll ask the women’s team etc is laughable.

If they did their 6 months review and found he was innocent, which is what they said, then stick to that review or what was the point. Stick to their review and explain all the conclusions. It’s just a joke what happened there. Complete waste of 6+ months.

As for Antony, they need to follow what they did with Greenwood. City did the same with Mendy, but they didn’t muck about like us and Greenwood. Just binned him. Everton with their player. I know Antony hasn’t been arrested yet, so it’s slightly different. But if it’s true the club did attend to an incident at the hotel, then that is a bit dodge.

This isn’t about the law really, it’s about protecting the brand, so it doesn’t matter what I think about these claims.

The club just seems to be run really badly on the football side of things, and the non football.

Also, I don't think you can say it's almost certain she's on the take, just like you can't say he did it.
 
The Greenwood charges were dropped in Feb 23 when the transfer windows were closed.

Utd could not do any review until after the legal process was concluded as any investigation could prejudice the outcome of that trial.

Once the charges get dropped I can guarantee anything to do with that internal review was done with the idea of how can we get him back.

Mendy played for Man City while on bail over his charges they only suspended him when he was actually held on remand due to further charges being added to his case.

The comparison here isn't Greenwood/Mendy who were accused of much more serious crimes than Anthony currently is.

Strachan summed it up about a decade ago when he said live no TV as a pundit that football has no morals and unless you work in an industry where background checks are required for safeguarding reasons talented people will always be given a second chance.
 
Mr C said:
Greenwood, once the police had closed their case. They should have looked at getting him out on loan then. Everybody knew it would cause a fuss. To spend another 6 months or whatever it was, doing a review, then start saying things like we’ll ask the women’s team etc is laughable.

If they did their 6 months review and found he was innocent, which is what they said, then stick to that review or what was the point. Stick to their review and explain all the conclusions. It’s just a joke what happened there. Complete waste of 6+ months.

As for Antony, they need to follow what they did with Greenwood. City did the same with Mendy, but they didn’t muck about like us and Greenwood. Just binned him. Everton with their player. I know Antony hasn’t been arrested yet, so it’s slightly different. But if it’s true the club did attend to an incident at the hotel, then that is a bit dodge.

This isn’t about the law really, it’s about protecting the brand, so it doesn’t matter what I think about these claims.

The club just seems to be run really badly on the football side of things, and the non football.

Also, I don't think you can say it's almost certain she's on the take, just like you can't say he did it.
Click to expand...

We're a family club, always have been so we were never gonna sell or send Greenwood out on loan while his partner was still carrying his child, and you are allowed to work that out for yourself, and as the comment about talking to the Ladies team first that was after a snake of a journalist had given the club 24 hours to comment on what we were going to do with Greenwood, or he would have broken a story that was the clubs to break, and the only people who could possibly have been offended by United's comment would have been the Girls, but as they'd been asked for their views 6 months previously they obviously wouldn't have been.

Right when do we play City, gonna tell the Police he sent me a picture of his dick ....
 
Two other former girlfriends have now come forward with complaints.
 
Going to have to start putting some conditions in the salaries in future
 
Unless the PFA/FIFPRO approve it they’ll find it hard to introduce a code of conduct for players.

Also, employment law means suspending him without pay may not be allowed.
 
I think there's a difference between telling a paper your ex knocked you about that selling a kiss and tell story to a tabloid.

Initially when it was 1 person vs Anthony my opinion was the club need to stand back and see how it plays out now there's 3 potential victims it is reaching the point where they may have to take him out of action until there's a bit more clarity over what has happened.
 
The influencer doing her influencing ....

If Antony still maintains he's innocent we should back him 100%
 
I have to say I am not in favour of this decision. We have a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. There is an accusation. There is an investigation. The cpa decides if there is a case to answer. There is a trial and subsequent punishment if found guilty. I think we are going down a dangerous road if we start suspending people at the point of accusation
 
It's the brand!

That's what these big businesses do.

I'm not sure I agree with it, but it was inevitable.

He won't be missed though, someone else gets a chance. I just hope we don't play Rashford there
 
Mr C said:
He won't be missed though, someone else gets a chance. I just hope we don't play Rashford there
Click to expand...

One of our better performers at Arsenal, strange take.

That should be a sackable offence. Which is weird cos that's where he started off in the Academy.
 
Justin Cider said:
Of course we had a choice. By doing this we've basically admitted we think he's guilty.
Click to expand...

Nonsense. We’ve given him time and space to clear his name, something if you read the statements he’s agreed to. May well be that he feels it’s best he deals with this in Brazil rather than deal with it from Manchester.

Given he’s probably been the main news story in his home country every day this week his head is probably all over the place and giving him a bit of time off might actually be the best thing for him.

The club have been quite clear that he hasn’t been suspended.
 
Nah, it's not his decision, he said only a couple of days ago he'd give everything to the club while clearing his name.
 
He said it was a mutual decision and it’s the right one. His head will probably not be in the game and we don’t need that. Even if you’re 5% off your game due to outside factors then that’s 5% too much.
 
O-Dog said:
Rubbish. We've admitted there could be a case to answer and we don't know the facts.
Click to expand...

Behave yourself, we've known there may be a case to answer for months, and put out a press release a few days ago saying we'd see how it played out, airhead Riley pipes up again and we jump. Its getting fecking embarrassing ....
 
jsp said:
Nonsense. We’ve given him time and space to clear his name, something if you read the statements he’s agreed to. May well be that he feels it’s best he deals with this in Brazil rather than deal with it from Manchester.

Given he’s probably been the main news story in his home country every day this week his head is probably all over the place and giving him a bit of time off might actually be the best thing for him.

The club have been quite clear that he hasn’t been suspended.
Click to expand...

No mate I thought it was worth posting the statement on the forum(above) but forgot to read it first :rolleyes:

Doesn't mean he's agreed to it does it, he might have had no option. How often are mutual agreements erm mutual agreements??

He lives in England, most of his family is in England with him, and it would be better for him to throw himself into training, and not being isolated sat around waiting for the latest accusations to come in, and they will, till the original accuser can be discredited.
 
SuperRash said:
He said it was a mutual decision
Click to expand...
That's no defence, many a manager has left by mutual consent

It's club led, but they had little choice. But these stupid press releases which everybody knows isn't true is embarrassing. This club needs to start owning its decisions. It looks weak in every situation.
 
Mr C said:
That's no defence, many a manager has left by mutual consent

It's club led, but they had little choice. But these stupid press releases which everybody knows isn't true is embarrassing. This club needs to start owning its decisions. It looks weak in every situation.
Click to expand...
He released a statement and it’s a very senisbke one because he knows his head probably won’t be fully in the game. But this is just another stick to beat the club with I guess?

No-one knows the full facts of the situation a lot like the Greenwood one but it’s all the clubs fault? Getting a little tiresome.
 
That isn't what I'm sayng at all, I'm saying the club handled it badly again, with some wishy washy press release nobody with brain would believe. We dicussed on here at least a week ago, probably more, that he will/should be dropped. Yet they allow social media and famous fans get the upper hand, so they end up looking weak. If they were going to act, which they have, it should have been a week ago.

There is no way they have taken this decision to help the player, or they would have done it weeks ago, and there is no way it's mutual.

It's about time the club owned their decisions. They just look weak all the time.
 
Mutual in the contractual sense means both parties agree to end a contract it doesn’t mean both parties wanted that outcome just that they’ve agreed a way to end it.

In this case it may be that the club proposed an extended break and he agreed, it may the the other way around we will never know but he’s agreed to it.
 
Mr C said:
That isn't what I'm sayng at all, I'm saying the club handled it badly again, with some wishy washy press release nobody with brain would believe. We dicussed on here at least a week ago, probably more, that he will/should be dropped. Yet they allow social media and famous fans get the upper hand, so they end up looking weak. If they were going to act, which they have, it should have been a week ago.

There is no way they have taken this decision to help the player, or they would have done it weeks ago, and there is no way it's mutual.

It's about time the club owned their decisions. They just look weak all the time.
Click to expand...
There is no timeframe when we should of acted really. Each case is different and are privy to more information than we mere minions. We can purely speculate about the situation but we know nothing really.
 

Login or Register

Forgot your password?
Don't have an account? Register now
or Log in using
Back
Top