Andre Onana | Match Discussion Thread 2024/25

Matt Varnish said:
Today was a typical game for him, made a couple of saves which for him were good, for any other keeper they were bread & butter.
Went too early on a couple of the penalties, and literally gave the Fulham players an empty goal to shoot at.
Ask yourself who would you rather have had in goal today Onana or Leno?
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Onana made two really good saves today. I don't think any of us believe he is the keeper to take us forward, however let's not be so blinkered in our thinking and give praise where it is justified.
 
I'm not sure those saves were anything special.

Trying to remain fair though, I will say that the goal we conceded was probably close to unstoppable.
 
RVN said:
De Gea was poor with penalties, whether during the game or in a shootout.
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Not as poor as Onana by any stretch of the imagination.

Though I see no reason for criticism for Onana today. I dont expect my keepers to save pens. Some are better than others. But the keeper is always against the wall in a shootout. Onana needs to learn to wait another half a second.
 
Jayc1860 said:
I'm not sure those saves were anything special.

Trying to remain fair though, I will say that the goal we conceded was probably close to unstoppable.
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One save was at full stretch down low to his left close to the post. A very good save.
 
RVN said:
One save was at full stretch down low to his left close to the post. A very good save.
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A save that 100% of keepers at this level should be making.

He's just a very average keeper that has a lot of mistakes in him. Not good enough if we want to get back to the top of the league any time soon.
 
RVN said:
One save was at full stretch down low to his left close to the post. A very good save.
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We are so used to him as a poor keeper, when he makes what is for others a bread and butter save we think it's exceptional, the truth is it's not.
This guy cost us £43m + add ons, he's not worth half that.
 
Matt Varnish said:
We are so used to him as a poor keeper, when he makes what is for others a bread and butter save we think it's exceptional, the truth is it's not.
This guy cost us £43m + add ons, he's not worth half that.
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Was it only that? I thought it was in the 60's. At least that's a silver lining!

I fully agree we shouldn't have let De Gea go.
 
SuperRash said:
I think it really isn’t worth trying to positive about Onana in this thread, when he does things right it’s barely commented on but when he does something wrong he’s a clown, the worst keeper since Taibi etc.
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Agreed.
 
£44m plus another £3m of add ons.

It was time to move on from De Gea but I do think we’ve failed at our first crack at replacing him.

Not that it really matters but wages wise he’s on considerably less than De Gea was on
 
Jayc1860 said:
A save that 100% of keepers at this level should be making.

He's just a very average keeper that has a lot of mistakes in him. Not good enough if we want to get back to the top of the league any time soon.
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That was kind of my point, if De Gea was in goal tonight and made the saves Onana made some would say he had a very good game. However as it’s Onana there are comments like he should be making those saves or he didn’t make saves when it matters. He’s being judged by his past mistakes and not on a game by game basis.
 
One of his better games but thats not saying much when he`s crap most of the time, he makes easy saves look dramatic and more difficult than most keepers, went too early for the penalties and made them easy to score.
 
SuperRash said:
That was kind of my point, if De Gea was in goal tonight and made the saves Onana made some would say he had a very good game. However as it’s Onana there are comments like he should be making those saves or he didn’t make saves when it matters. He’s being judged by his past mistakes and not on a game by game basis.
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Pretty sure you're not reading what I'm saying.

Jayc1860 said:
Trying to remain fair though, I will say that the goal we conceded was probably close to unstoppable.
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Jayc1860 said:
Fulham took some great pens there, credit to them.
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Both posts are fair. I could have said the same thing as others did, and that was that the goal was stoppable and Onana did poorly on the pens.

There's also one more post I remember back when me and Mr. C were talking about something. I can't be bothered to find it, but it also credits him with playing well.

So now you'll be forced to retract your statement or you'll do your SuperRash thing and not reply when I've made a good point against you.

Remember you started this so don't get all hissy when I call you out.
 
Jayc1860 said:
Pretty sure you're not reading what I'm saying.




Both posts are fair. I could have said the same thing as others did, and that was that the goal was stoppable and Onana did poorly on the pens.

There's also one more post I remember back when me and Mr. C were talking about something. I can't be bothered to find it, but it also credits him with playing well.

So now you'll be forced to retract your statement or you'll do your SuperRash thing and not reply when I've made a good point against you.

Remember you started this so don't get all hissy when I call you out.
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It wasn’t just a post aimed at you, it was just a general observation that some posts aren’t very fair to Onana and he seems to be judged to an impossible standard. I just happened to quote your post where you say his saves are 100% saved by any keeper at this level. Whereas if De Gea or perhaps any other keeper made the saves he did yesterday, this comment probably wouldn’t have been said. Also an earlier comment by another poster where ‘he didn’t save the ones that matter’ was another example.

You’ve made good points against me in the past? Can’t say I recall but I’ll keep an eye out for them in the future! ;)
 
SuperRash said:
It wasn’t just a post aimed at you, it was just a general observation that some posts aren’t very fair to Onana and he seems to be judged to an impossible standard. I just happened to quote your post where you say his saves are 100% saved by any keeper at this level. Whereas if De Gea or perhaps any other keeper made the saves he did yesterday, this comment probably wouldn’t have been said. Also an earlier comment by another poster where ‘he didn’t save the ones that matter’ was another example.

You’ve made good points against me in the past? Can’t say I recall but I’ll keep an eye out for them in the future! ;)
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Well, that post made me smile.

Fair enough though.

I was just looking to defend myself as I feel I'm quite fair when judging players. I don't always get it right, but I try my best.

I'll watch out for your good points too, I've been waiting a while to read some. ;p
 
SuperRash said:
It wasn’t just a post aimed at you, it was just a general observation that some posts aren’t very fair to Onana and he seems to be judged to an impossible standard. I just happened to quote your post where you say his saves are 100% saved by any keeper at this level. Whereas if De Gea or perhaps any other keeper made the saves he did yesterday, this comment probably wouldn’t have been said. Also an earlier comment by another poster where ‘he didn’t save the ones that matter’ was another example.

You’ve made good points against me in the past? Can’t say I recall but I’ll keep an eye out for them in the future! ;)
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I'll ask you the same question.
Who would you have preferred in goal yesterday
Onana
Leno
De Gea

You watch either of the two other than Onana and they are getting down to those headers and shots, it's called reflexes, Onana is totally void of them.
Watch the Banks save against Pele, very similar, Banks saved it
That's the difference between a clown and a keeper.
 
I'm pretty convinced that if the Fulham goal had been the one that Bruno scored everyone would be saying he should have saved it because Leno doesn't get down quick enough to it.

Onana actually saved a fairly similar one towards the end of the game from Smith-Rowe.

There was also a shot right at the end of the 90 from Garnacho which Leno pushed straight out in front of him which the defender beat Obi to. No one will remember that because the defender did his job and got to the rebound first.

The Bassey goal is a header from 6 yards out the Pele header you reference was closer to the penalty spot the extra time the ball takes to travel is what gives the keeper a chance and that was widely regarded as one of the greatest saves ever made so it's absolute BS to even suggest it's routine.

If we were going on ability then Onana is a better keeper than Leno but Onana isn't playing at his best so if you had a to pick one guy for a cup final tomorrow you'd pick Leno.
 
I've seen nothing as a keeper that suggest he's better than Leno since he's joining us. To find any form for him you have to go back to his last season at Inter.

It quite simply hasn't worked. He makes far too many mistakes. Not that I think yesterday was one. But one of his plus points when getting him over De Gea was he'll be better at controlling his box from set pieces. And he's actually somehow worse.
 
I agree it hasn't worked and it's something Utd will now have to address is the summer as despite a decent start to the season the mistakes have come back.

I just think some of the criticism is way over the top like yesterday that was a solid 7/10 performance but some are trying to blame him for a goal he had no real chance of stopping.
 
I'll give you that one on the distance Pele was from the goal, however Pele's was powered straight from the cross, and bounced.
Bassey gets on the end of a flick, there is not as much power behind it.
I stand by my argument that a keeper with better anticipation, and better reflexes gets to that one.
 
Jayc1860 said:
Well, that post made me smile.

Fair enough though.

I was just looking to defend myself as I feel I'm quite fair when judging players. I don't always get it right, but I try my best.

I'll watch out for your good points too, I've been waiting a while to read some. ;p
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Sure I’ll get there eventually! :cool:

We all have our opinions and differing views, that’s the nature of a forum setting. No drama!
 
Matt Varnish said:
I'll ask you the same question.
Who would you have preferred in goal yesterday
Onana
Leno
De Gea

You watch either of the two other than Onana and they are getting down to those headers and shots, it's called reflexes, Onana is totally void of them.
Watch the Banks save against Pele, very similar, Banks saved it
That's the difference between a clown and a keeper.
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This post reached a level of absurdity when you mentioned Banks and Pele - that was a worldie no doubt but not your standard save. Shouldn’t be compared.

Onana is a better keeper than Leno. Do you remember Leno’s time at Arsenal? Absolutely mistake ridden.

And well I’ve already learnt on here there are short memories on here with De Gea. Absolute legend but made some horrible errors in his last couple of years.
 
SuperRash said:
This post reached a level of absurdity when you mentioned Banks and Pele - that was a worldie no doubt but not your standard save. Shouldn’t be compared.

Onana is a better keeper than Leno. Do you remember Leno’s time at Arsenal? Absolutely mistake ridden.

And well I’ve already learnt on here there are short memories on here with De Gea. Absolute legend but made some horrible errors in his last couple of years.
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Golden glove in his last season
 
I think de gea's form dropped when the club withdrew his contract. Before that he was in good form.
De gea is a much better keeper than Onana
 
My summation of Onana’s United career so far: he had a poor start in 2023, he was solid to good in 2024 and he’s had bad moments in 2025.
 
Sideshow Bob said:
My summation of Onana’s United career so far: he had a poor start in 2023, he was solid to good in 2024 and he’s had bad moments in 2025.
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Pretty much spot on.

I do think we have reached the point where they need to bring in another keeper this summer... another unplanned addition to the list of signings the club need to make.
 
League games only

8th clean sheet this season.

He had 9 last season
 

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