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De Gea was poor with penalties, whether during the game or in a shootout.De Gea or most top keepers stop that header.
De Gea was poor with penalties, whether during the game or in a shootout.De Gea or most top keepers stop that header.
Onana made two really good saves today. I don't think any of us believe he is the keeper to take us forward, however let's not be so blinkered in our thinking and give praise where it is justified.Today was a typical game for him, made a couple of saves which for him were good, for any other keeper they were bread & butter.
Went too early on a couple of the penalties, and literally gave the Fulham players an empty goal to shoot at.
Ask yourself who would you rather have had in goal today Onana or Leno?
Not as poor as Onana by any stretch of the imagination.De Gea was poor with penalties, whether during the game or in a shootout.
One save was at full stretch down low to his left close to the post. A very good save.I'm not sure those saves were anything special.
Trying to remain fair though, I will say that the goal we conceded was probably close to unstoppable.
He made a brilliant save down to his right too.One save was at full stretch down low to his left close to the post. A very good save.
A save that 100% of keepers at this level should be making.One save was at full stretch down low to his left close to the post. A very good save.
We are so used to him as a poor keeper, when he makes what is for others a bread and butter save we think it's exceptional, the truth is it's not.One save was at full stretch down low to his left close to the post. A very good save.
Was it only that? I thought it was in the 60's. At least that's a silver lining!We are so used to him as a poor keeper, when he makes what is for others a bread and butter save we think it's exceptional, the truth is it's not.
This guy cost us £43m + add ons, he's not worth half that.
Agreed.I think it really isn’t worth trying to positive about Onana in this thread, when he does things right it’s barely commented on but when he does something wrong he’s a clown, the worst keeper since Taibi etc.
That was kind of my point, if De Gea was in goal tonight and made the saves Onana made some would say he had a very good game. However as it’s Onana there are comments like he should be making those saves or he didn’t make saves when it matters. He’s being judged by his past mistakes and not on a game by game basis.A save that 100% of keepers at this level should be making.
He's just a very average keeper that has a lot of mistakes in him. Not good enough if we want to get back to the top of the league any time soon.
Pretty sure you're not reading what I'm saying.That was kind of my point, if De Gea was in goal tonight and made the saves Onana made some would say he had a very good game. However as it’s Onana there are comments like he should be making those saves or he didn’t make saves when it matters. He’s being judged by his past mistakes and not on a game by game basis.
Trying to remain fair though, I will say that the goal we conceded was probably close to unstoppable.
Fulham took some great pens there, credit to them.
It wasn’t just a post aimed at you, it was just a general observation that some posts aren’t very fair to Onana and he seems to be judged to an impossible standard. I just happened to quote your post where you say his saves are 100% saved by any keeper at this level. Whereas if De Gea or perhaps any other keeper made the saves he did yesterday, this comment probably wouldn’t have been said. Also an earlier comment by another poster where ‘he didn’t save the ones that matter’ was another example.Pretty sure you're not reading what I'm saying.
Both posts are fair. I could have said the same thing as others did, and that was that the goal was stoppable and Onana did poorly on the pens.
There's also one more post I remember back when me and Mr. C were talking about something. I can't be bothered to find it, but it also credits him with playing well.
So now you'll be forced to retract your statement or you'll do your SuperRash thing and not reply when I've made a good point against you.
Remember you started this so don't get all hissy when I call you out.
Well, that post made me smile.It wasn’t just a post aimed at you, it was just a general observation that some posts aren’t very fair to Onana and he seems to be judged to an impossible standard. I just happened to quote your post where you say his saves are 100% saved by any keeper at this level. Whereas if De Gea or perhaps any other keeper made the saves he did yesterday, this comment probably wouldn’t have been said. Also an earlier comment by another poster where ‘he didn’t save the ones that matter’ was another example.
You’ve made good points against me in the past? Can’t say I recall but I’ll keep an eye out for them in the future!![]()
I'll ask you the same question.It wasn’t just a post aimed at you, it was just a general observation that some posts aren’t very fair to Onana and he seems to be judged to an impossible standard. I just happened to quote your post where you say his saves are 100% saved by any keeper at this level. Whereas if De Gea or perhaps any other keeper made the saves he did yesterday, this comment probably wouldn’t have been said. Also an earlier comment by another poster where ‘he didn’t save the ones that matter’ was another example.
You’ve made good points against me in the past? Can’t say I recall but I’ll keep an eye out for them in the future!![]()
Sure I’ll get there eventually!Well, that post made me smile.
Fair enough though.
I was just looking to defend myself as I feel I'm quite fair when judging players. I don't always get it right, but I try my best.
I'll watch out for your good points too, I've been waiting a while to read some. ;p
This post reached a level of absurdity when you mentioned Banks and Pele - that was a worldie no doubt but not your standard save. Shouldn’t be compared.I'll ask you the same question.
Who would you have preferred in goal yesterday
Onana
Leno
De Gea
You watch either of the two other than Onana and they are getting down to those headers and shots, it's called reflexes, Onana is totally void of them.
Watch the Banks save against Pele, very similar, Banks saved it
That's the difference between a clown and a keeper.
Golden glove in his last seasonThis post reached a level of absurdity when you mentioned Banks and Pele - that was a worldie no doubt but not your standard save. Shouldn’t be compared.
Onana is a better keeper than Leno. Do you remember Leno’s time at Arsenal? Absolutely mistake ridden.
And well I’ve already learnt on here there are short memories on here with De Gea. Absolute legend but made some horrible errors in his last couple of years.
My summation of Onana’s United career so far: he had a poor start in 2023, he was solid to good in 2024 and he’s had bad moments in 2025.
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