Alejandro Garnacho | Match Discussion Thread 2024/25

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Hopefully he has come back refreshed after his little break because felt like we ran him into the ground a little last season. Probably could have done without the Copa America, so he could have had a full summer off.
 
The opposite end of the spectrum from Rashford. I love him as a player. One thing he can improve upon this campaign is his decision making. I actually prefer him down the right and was happy when we initially made that change but he's by far the most comfortable of our wingers on both wings which gives ETH some flexibility in games.

I think he's got a chance to be our player of the season this year.
 
I reckon the club might try to hold him back a bit in the first few weeks of the season to get him up to full speed.

Big season for him needs to show that last season wasn’t a fluke , teams will be a bit better prepared for him now.

I’d like to see him look for his team mates more rather than just being head down and shoot every time.

The forward players have got to start combining to create chances for each other.
 
He's more intelligent than you think - he was the one who passed the ball to Amad against Liverpool when it was far easier to go for glory himself, which is actually what I thought he would do. The result was us making the final. That is a huge sign of growth and excellent decision making in a high pressure situation.
 
The pass was actually extremely poor and Amad bailed him out with a beauty of a finish. The ball should have happened sooner but Garnacho was greedy with it.

He got to it in the end but he pushed Amad a lot wider than he should have and made the finish more difficult.
 
Completely disagree. Garnacho drew the defenders to him, he knew exactly what he was doing.

Your case/opinion is stupid as the ball ends up in the net after one tiny feint touch and then a hit. That says to me the ball is amost perfect as he could have hit it first time if he had of chosen to. He just wanted it out of his feet slightly.
 
Jayc1860 said:
Completely disagree. Garnacho drew the defenders to him, he knew exactly what he was doing.

Your case/opinion is stupid as the ball ends up in the net after one tiny feint touch and then a hit. That says to me the ball is amost perfect as he could have hit it first time if he had of chosen to. He just wanted it out of his feet slightly.
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Again with the insults. I thought I'd give you a second chance with the coming season but I'm just going to block you as it's nonsense abuse and rubbish as per.

You simply don't know how to have a conversation without resorting to insults and it's tiresome.
 
Jayc1860 said:
Completely disagree. Garnacho drew the defenders to him, he knew exactly what he was doing.

Your case/opinion is stupid as the ball ends up in the net after one tiny feint touch and then a hit. That says to me the ball is amost perfect as he could have hit it first time if he had of chosen to. He just wanted it out of his feet slightly.
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The ball was poor to Amad but the ball ended up in the back of the net, so doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. However I agree with @IDFD that the ball wasn’t great but Amad finished it with aplomb.
 
SuperRash said:
The ball was poor to Amad but the ball ended up in the back of the net, so doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. However I agree with @IDFD that the ball wasn’t great but Amad finished it with aplomb.
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You honestly believe an assist in those circumstances, under all of that pressure at the end of the game when this may well be our last attack of the game is a poor pass? I can't get my head around that. He's drawn the defenders away from Amad for a reason. You're not giving the credit it deserves. This was play beyond his years. These comments are nothing more than to be on IDFD's side as far as I can see.

I should be used to that by now, eh?
 
I think the point here is it wasn't laid on a plate for Amad and left him plenty to do but it was the right idea from Garnacho and Amad finished it brilliantly. Garnacho drew the defender across then set it up for his team mate it was a clinical counter attack move.

That goal was a good example of our forwards working together to create a good chance, you could use the same case for the Mainoo goal in the cup final.

We just need to see more examples of that next season from all of them rather than trying to go alone which was something they were all guilty of at times last season.
 
It was a game winning counter attack - there is no way you can call Garnacho's play bad here. Never. The attack ended in a goal, I don't know what more he could have done. The pass is perfect, nothing less. As Amad scores. It's that simple.

If he had of made any different type of pass earlier or whatever, Amad may have hit the post or missed. The event ends in a goal. You cannot criticise either of their play. It was perfect. People are just being deliberately annoying.

And...it wasn't on a plate, huh? Holy shit. Extra time, and Garnacho is on over 120 mins played...... wow, it's not a Pirlo type pass that puts the keeper at a disatvantage and gives the player receiving the ball an advantage too..... you never would have guessed. It's the type of commitment people like us could only dream of.
 
Jayc1860 said:
You honestly believe an assist in those circumstances, under all of that pressure at the end of the game when this may well be our last attack of the game is a poor pass? I can't get my head around that. He's drawn the defenders away from Amad for a reason. You're not giving the credit it deserves. This was play beyond his years. These comments are nothing more than to be on IDFD's side as far as I can see.

I should be used to that by now, eh?
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Like jsp said the point was that it wasn’t the best pass into Amad’s stride. It was good play by Garnacho but the point originally by IDFD was that the pass wasn’t great but Amad made it work.

No need to get so uppity about it.
 
SuperRash said:
Like jsp said the point was that it wasn’t the best pass into Amad’s stride. It was good play by Garnacho but the point originally by IDFD was that the pass wasn’t great but Amad made it work.

No need to get so uppity about it.
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Like I said, it's a game in extra time at the point of a goal - this means people are very tired and you cannot find the will to support your own player? Horrendous, honestly.

Don't know what i was expecting anyways, from a man named SuperRash who has already given up on the player he once idolised.
 
Jayc1860 said:
Like I said, it's a game in extra time at the point of a goal - this means people are very tired and you cannot find the will to support your own player? Horrendous, honestly.
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Nothing I said didn’t support Garnacho - just merely agreed that the pass wasn’t great. It didn’t have an effect in the end because Amad made it work but if he didn’t produce that finish then we would be slating Garnacho for a poor under hit pass.

It’s like having a discussion with my wife - she can be infuriating as well.
 
Jayc1860 said:
It was a game winning counter attack - there is no way you can call Garnacho's play bad here. Never. The attack ended in a goal, I don't know what more he could have done. The pass is perfect, nothing less. As Amad scores. It's that simple.

If he had of made any different type of pass earlier or whatever, Amad may have hit the post or missed. The event ends in a goal. You cannot criticise either of their play. It was perfect. People are just being deliberately annoying.

And...it wasn't on a plate, huh? Holy shit. Extra time, and Garnacho is on over 120 mins played...... wow, it's not a Pirlo type pass that puts the keeper at a disatvantage and gives the player receiving the ball an advantage too..... you never would have guessed. It's the type of committment people like us could only dream of.
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The pass forced Amad to go wide and hit it first time with very little margin for error on the shot, he had to hit it perfect and he did. If the pass had been into his stride which it could have been he would likely have taken a touch before shooting giving him a lot more control of the situation. That's all people are trying to say and there was a chance for it to go a little bit earlier.

The reason why the pass wasn't perfect are all valid Garnacho had worked his nuts off for 120 minutes and had a defender closing off the angle so he probably played it safe enough to make sure it got to Amad rather than go for the perfect pass and risk it being cut out.

It was a good example of him seeing a team mate in space and passing on the responsibility rather than just trying to score on his own.
 
SuperRash said:
Nothing I said didn’t support Garnacho - just merely agreed that the pass wasn’t great. It didn’t have an effect in the end because Amad made it work but if he didn’t produce that finish then we would be slating Garnacho for a poor under hit pass.

It’s like having a discussion with my wife - she can be infuriating as well.
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Don't worry, we can have a cuddle later.

Have a look at the pass again though, it's really not a bad pass
 
jsp said:
The pass forced Amad to go wide and hit it first time with very little margin for error on the shot, he had to hit it perfect and he did. If the pass had been into his stride which it could have been he would likely have taken a touch before shooting giving him a lot more control of the situation. That's all people are trying to say and there was a chance for it to go a little bit earlier.

The reason why the pass wasn't perfect are all valid Garnacho had worked his nuts off for 120 minutes and had a defender closing off the angle so he probably played it safe enough to make sure it got to Amad rather than go for the perfect pass and risk it being cut out.

It was a good example of him seeing a team mate in space and passing on the responsibility rather than just trying to score on his own.
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He did take a touch before shooting.

Fair post though. Particularly bolded. Thank you.
 
Think he will become a superstar this season. He’s better on the right.

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Wonder who the first person to say he should play on the right and get shot down by the usual suspects was ;)

3 days later he started down the right and hasn't looked back.
 
Great goal and looked very positive when he came on. He should have also had an assist with that Rashford chance.

You cannot fail to love the guy, he plays with such purpose and positivity. I think he’s going to have a great season.
 
He reminds me of kanchelskis, very direct, both footed and has that ability to beat men.

Can't see him being anything other than brilliant for us in years to come.
 
Premier League: Brighton & Hove Albion 2-1 Manchester United - 24th August 2024

Don’t think we can leave him on the bench any further. Could well have had two goals one assist in our opening three games and probably should have.

Definitely would be coming in for Rashford against Liverpool.
 
He’s not always perfect but he makes things happen which you cannot say for Rashford right now.
 
Think they need to ease him in slowly.

Played a lot of games last season then the Copa and only had a few weeks off.

I’d maybe bring him in for Amad vs Liverpool as I don’t think he’s quite ready to start a game like that yet but we can’t risk burning these young players out.

The senior players who earn the big bucks need to start stepping up and taking the burden off these kids.
 
Garnacho will be starting. Like Zirkzee he's being eased in to the season. But after Bruno and Martinez you'd imagine he's the third name on the team sheet.
 
We shouldn’t be reliant on him though he’s still a kid who will have ups and downs with his form.

The senior players like Rashford, Mount and to a lesser degree Antony need to be producing more from wide areas when they play to take the pressure off Garnacho and Amad.
 
He's 20 now. I feel thats plenty old enough right now to be expected to be able to handle the pressure and he's never really shown signs of not being able to.
 

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