6 second rule to become the 8 second rule

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Keepers will now get 8 seconds once they have the ball under control in their hands to release it back into play. Either drop it, throw it or kick it.

Under the new rules the ref will count down the final 5 seconds on his fingers to indicate to the keeper he's being timed.

The punishment for holding the ball is no longer an in-direct free kick instead it will be a corner kick.

New rule comes in front the start of next season.

I look forward to this being rigidly enforced for a few weeks then scrapped because everyone decides they hate it.
 
When was the last time we saw an indirect free kick given for holding the ball longer than 7 seconds?

I like the idea of this to stop time wasting. Just worried it won't actually be implemented. One of the things that does my head in most in football is how much the refs let the keepers get away with it.
 
They had a big clamp down last season with the yellow cards for keepers with time wasting on goal kicks but after a couple of months that died out.

They stopped enforcing the 6 second rule years ago.

I assume the new 8 second rule will also be applied to goal kicks which is where keepers really do use the dark arts to eat up time.

I haven't seen if you break the 8 second rule if you are also given a yellow card.

Teams will just find new ways to time waste or break the flow of the game, the current trend is getting your keeper to go down "injured" which normally results in a mini team huddle with the manager while he gets treated. Because he's the keeper he doesn't have to go off for 30 seconds.
 
Was surprised it took someone this long to use this thread to take a pop at Onana
 
jsp said:
If only there was an entire thread dedicated to slagging off our goalkeeper.
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TBF the reputation is self proclaimed, we aren't making this stuff up, he has in the past wasted time when we needed to get on with it.
 
Something I've never really picked up on.

I'd say we don't really restart games all over the pitch with urgency. Quick corners, free kicks and throw ins are not our thing.
 
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My point exactly, and that's not a unique thing, part of the reason we bought him was for his distribution, it's no better than De Gea's
 
Matt Varnish said:
My point exactly, and that's not a unique thing, part of the reason we bought him was for his distribution, it's no better than De Gea's
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Agree. Also astonishing people trying to say they haven't picked up on it. They're either blind, ignorant, or not watching the games at all.
 
I think it’s a problem all over the pitch, there is a serious lack of movement all around so the player in possession including Onana struggles for options.
 
Jayc1860 said:
Agree. Also astonishing people trying to say they haven't picked up on it. They're either blind, ignorant, or not watching the games at all.
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Mostly the last bit to be honest but in the bits I see it’s clearly a tactic.

Hold the ball, draw in the press then play over it. Doesn’t work very well as his long range kicking isn’t amazing and the players he’s kicking to don’t want it in the air.

if the opponent doesn’t come forward he goes short which almost always ends up with the ball back at him inside 2 or 3 passes.
 
jsp said:
Mostly the last bit to be honest but in the bits I see it’s clearly a tactic.

Hold the ball, draw in the press then play over it. Doesn’t work very well as his long range kicking isn’t amazing and the players he’s kicking to don’t want it in the air.

if the opponent doesn’t come forward he goes short which almost always ends up with the ball back at him inside 2 or 3 passes.
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I did think it was probably the latter, you usually mention you didn't see the second half or whatever.

I think that tactic is horribly broken and he keeps doing it. In the small video I linked before you can see he plays Lindelof into a corner and has another defender running furiously back to help... that's just not right.

It doesn't need to be this hard.
 
I haven't got any stats on when he does it in a game, but I don't think it's a tactic, my opinion is that his distribution is shit, he knows it, and just can't make his mind up who he attempts to deliver the ball to, it ends up with a kick and hope, or a short pass to a defender, with the former the pressure comes straight back at us, with the latter it invites the press.
 
Matt Varnish said:
Ssssh you'll wake the trolls
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I dont think anyone thinking Amorims lack of adaptability is trolling.

You should have seen how toxic the now pretending to he innocent guys were.

Amorim has been shocking and to call that out is okay.

However Onana had a game where he pretty much cost us one last attack by trying to buy a yard off the ref and it was ridiculous.

But it's important this rule is implemented properly and stamp this time wasting out the game.
 
Amorim wasn't brought in to show his amazing skills of adaptability, he was brung in to change the way we play entirely and he would have been upfront about his plans with the powers that be. This is a clear club strategy and people in the know get that.

It's so hilarious that you want adaptability whilst being an ETH fan. ETH's strategy was to open up the centre of the pitch to the opposition and have players up top press ineffectively for most of the match. The results being the team playing around us/counter attack and wide open pitch on every attempt to get at us. You supported this rubbish for a very long time, proving to me your football tactical knowledge is zero.

Honestly, I don't have the words.
 
honestly guys.

A thread about a rule change and we are basically on to the same old stuff.

Onana is crap and Amorim vs Ten Hag.

There are already threads to discuss that.

As for the new rule I’m interested to see if it does hurry the keepers up and how long it last before the refs decide to ease off on it.

If it works maybe they can introduce something to speed up free kicks and corners as well.
 
Yeah, you're right.

We do need to change that trend around here.

I will stay on topic from now on.
 
I've noticed the keeper taking a while with the ball for a few clubs.
Hold it for more than 6, then drop it and still not play it.
The problem when Onana does it, he usually gives possession away.
 
Changing this rule wont make a lot of difference and certainly wont help us with that idiot in goal, he doesent know his arse from his elbow.
 
SuperRash said:
Your words fell on deaf ears @jsp.
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I tried my best :p

I'm trying to avoid the chicken and egg nature of this argument. Is he being slow to pass the ball because he's crap or is he slow to pass the ball because no one is getting free quickly.

Not being at the game where you could see his options I can't really contribute to that debate as TV doesn't give you the full picture.
 
I watch a few games, I would say it's more common than you think. It's certainly not just Onana.

It's another Pep effect, football is just a lot slower and a lot less fun than it used to be. That could be just me being an old git.
 
Mr C said:
I watch a few games, I would say it's more common than you think. It's certainly not just Onana.

It's another Pep effect, football is just a lot slower and a lot less fun than it used to be. That could be just me being an old git.
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Think it's just a result of teams not playing direct long ball stuff and the change that allows you to take goal kicks inside your box.

The restarts have become a bit of a game of cat and mouse as the keeper will always setup to play short and try to "bait the press" then either play through it or go over the top of it to get into the space behind your midfield.

Utd try to do this and are probably one of the worst teams in the league at doing it. I don't think that's really down to the keeper to be honest I think it's more we have to many outfield players who can't play under pressure and will always take the safe option and turn back.
 
Joking aside I'm optimistic about this rule staying the course, as the penalty for infringing this law is a corner kick I can see the opposition players making a noise if it's not enforced.
I'm hoping it will speed up play, I sick and fed up of keepers slowing the game down.
 

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