Sideshow Bob
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We weren't the only team playing in empty stadiums. But no other team had managed it.Not sure it really counts when you have all those games without fans.
We weren't the only team playing in empty stadiums. But no other team had managed it.
And I don't think it'll be too long until that away record is ended. But hey if United win more home games then that's the key to it. As De Gea said, it isn't about records, it is about titles.True but the record we broke was set by teams playing in front of fans.
It’s a great achievement over a whole season unbeaten away from home but these weren’t normal away games.
Well I think partly because it was mainly done without crowds? Also because this long run means nothing without ending in a title. And also because its being offset against their poor home form.Why are so many playing the record down, historically we're poor on the road, hell when I first starting watching United if we went 3 or 4 games without losing away from home it felt like an achievement.
Fair commentIf it was so easy to do because there were no crowds why isn't every other club on an English top flight record breaking unbeaten run?
At what point did I say it was easy to do? Umm no I didn't. Read the post.If it was so easy to do because there were no crowds why isn't every other club on an English top flight record breaking unbeaten run?
At what point did I say it was easy to do? Umm no I didn't. Read the post.
No. Someone asked why it was being downplayed and I gave possible reasons / explanations why. That's very different. I didn't say it was easy. I didn't say any team could do it. I wasn't taking credit away. I was merely giving explanations why people downplay the unbeaten streak.Someone asked why it was being downplayed. You said 'because it was without crowds'.
That implies that you think it was easy because the crowds weren't there. So again if it's because it was without crowds why isn't everyone on an unbeaten run. It's just looking for excuses to not give any credit.
Well I think partly because it was mainly done without crowds? Also because this long run means nothing without ending in a title. And also because its being offset against their poor home form.
Come again? United want players that don't cower when they get dogs abuse but are motivated by it... So tell me again how exactly does that relate to their unbeaten run when for the most part there's been no fans in the stadium? Sorry bud but your point makes no sense.If anything achieving it without crowds makes it even better for me. When United sign players they want those that don't cower when they get dogs abuse but are motivated by it so playing in front of partisan crowds isn't really a problem, and those that come through the Academy system are conditioned from an early age what to expect so it's not an issue for them either, and then there's United's away support which is by quite some distance the best in the Country and that's not even open to debate, and they weren't there to drive the team on the numerous timed we went behind.
It hasn't ended yet!
Come again? United want players that don't cower when they get dogs abuse but are motivated by it... So tell me again how exactly does that relate to their unbeaten run when for the most part there's been no fans in the stadium? Sorry bud but your point makes no sense.
I think you're creating an agenda there. You asked the question why the record is being downplayed. I gave you so reasons why that may be.I maybe could probably have made a better fist of trying to explain it, but it's a sad state of affairs when some fans would rather downplay a great achievement because it would have meant having to give credit to Ole and the lads with reasons/excuses that can't be proven one way or the another.
I think you're creating an agenda there. You asked the question why the record is being downplayed. I gave you so reasons why that may be.
Now look if you want to believe that United would have gone on the same run with fans in the stadium then good for you. We will never know.
So home advantage counts for nothing?It's the same players, Manager and tactics, same League position pressure so no I don't believe for a second it would have made any difference.
I'm not sure why a fan of the club would suggest it would, rival fans and WUM's yes.
But as you say we'll never know, maybe time to move on.
So home advantage counts for nothing?
Huh? The home team have always got an advantage whether the stadium is full or empty. The fact that there were apparently more away wins than normal last season proves nothing.
So the home team has an advantage whether the stadium is full or empty? And it is just pure coincidence that last year, with empty stadiums there were more away wins? Interesting analysis.Huh? The home team have always got an advantage whether the stadium is full or empty. The fact that there were apparently more away wins than normal last season proves nothing.
You're absolutely right. It is a fantastic record and it should be celebrated. It'll come to an end eventually and the record will take some beating by any team.Its a fantastic record and not a fluke by any means
Still think Ole has reached his ceiling but must be congratulated on a excellent away run
Happy to give praise when he has done something well and happy to criticise when he does crap
Do we get a trophy?How many matches was the unbeaten run?
Well I think it implies that a home crowd plays a role in the game certainly can provide the home team to have an extra bit of energy to find a goal or even sway a ref to give you marginal calls or perhaps wind up an opponent to put them of their game.
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