2021/22 End of Season Review ~ De Gea

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I'll do this for everyone over the coming weeks probably only do De Gea for the goalkeepers because he's the only one who's actually played some games.

So lets give De Gea his ranking out of 10 this season your vote is public so everyone can see what rating you gave him.

These are league stats only taken of the Fantasy Premier League app as of today.

37 appeareances
56 conceded
8 clean sheets
126 saves
69.2 save success rate
Penalties Faced 5
Penalties Saved 2
Passes 772
Pass Completion 68.4%
Errors Leading to Goal 1
 
I'll give Dave an 8/10 I think he's been called upon as the last line of defence far to often thanks to the absolute shambles in front of him.

At the start of the season he wasn't my number 1 I was happy for the club to stick with Henderson but De Gea has sorted out his form after two pretty poor seasons by his own standards and he's at least back to doing the things we know he can do well.

There are obviously some limitations to his game his passing isn't up to the highest standards and he doesn't dominate his box but he is probably the best shot stopping keeper around. That said it may not be enough for the new boss who wants his sides to build from the back when we've done that under De Gea it has not been pretty and at his age now I don't think it's going to be a skill he develops and it's probably the reason why this season he's been dropped from the Spain squad all together.
 
Dave always looks good when the rest of the team are poor. Do we only see all the saves during these periods and not errors?
 
Dave always looks good when the rest of the team are poor. Do we only see all the saves during these periods and not errors?

Don't forget to vote.

I don't think the two are linked just a coincidence he was great the season we won the league in 2013 for example he was also good in the season we finished second under Mourinho.

2020/21 his save success was 65% with 1 error leading to a goal 2019/20 save success was 73% with 3 errors leading to goals. These stats probably aren't the best ones to use as they don't really tell you the quality of the saves. From the stats I can find it would suggest that De Gea is out performing Xg by 7 goals this season higher than any other keeper in the league. Last season his performance against Xg was 0 and season before + 2.

As he's a great eye catching shot stopper the more shots he faces the more of the De Gea "worldie" saves there's a chance of seeing.

Just like a striker will probably score more goals if he plays in a team that creates more chances a goalkeeper will make more saves if he's playing in a team that gives the opponent so many shots.

Hopefully he's a lot quieter next season.
 
A very solid 8 I would say. He has been badly exposed by his defenders and midfield week after week. His shot stopping has been top draw though and from my recollection hasn’t dropped many ‘clangers’, as he had done in the last few seasons

There are obviously still doubters about his distribution and the command of his area but without a doubt if we didn’t have him, then we would be even more up the creek without a paddle!

Definitely up there in the top two performers this season for us, along with Ronaldo.
 
I gave him a 7 but was tempted to give him a 6.

Look he's had a good year. Along with Ronaldo he's been the best United player. But let's be honest that's not saying a lot is it?

He's been really good because he's been so busy. It's like keepers towards the bottom of the league... They look better because they are busy and make a lot of saves.

And ultimately he's a limited keeper in the modern game.
 
I gave seven, not a person in this side deserves more than 7. And only Ronaldo and Fred will also get above 5 from me.
 
Why can't an individual get higher than a 7 because his team mates have been crap?

In a season where we've let in 56 goals the stat models suggest he's still saved an extra 9 goals this season through the quality of his shot stopping.
 
You know, I've been too busy getting upset about the defence to concentrate on the keeper for all our goals. I have no idea how many were his fault or could have done better.

But no, no player on this team deserves more than 7. I hate them all.
 
I mean when I do the defenders I might just do the poll up to 5 as none of them are allowed higher than 5/10 this season.
 
Gave him a six for no other reason than he was better than a five, but not good enough for a seven.

6½ at best, not sure what those that gave him an 8 have been watching.
 
Player of the Year again. 8. His reflexes are still cat-like, he makes saves that look to break the laws of physics. His passing could be better, but that could be said about the entire XI.
 
Yeah, giving a new contract to one of our most consistent performers over the last decade.

He's still got it and I trust he's mature enough to know he'll soon be helping his successor settle in.
He's not a modern day GK. He's not improved in his distribution or his ability to come off his line. He really isn't a fit for what ETH should want to do.
 
He’s one of the players that looks like they still give a damn. Also he’s still one hell of a goalkeeper, just because he isn’t a ‘modern’ keeper doesn’t mean he’s not deserving of a new deal.

Henderson showed he’s not up to the task and we could well replace him with a modern keeper who still isn’t up to the task. The grass isn’t always greener.
 
New deal would need to be a short term extension on reduced wages.

I just don’t think he’s going to adapt to this new style.
 
A new deal makes no sense. It's the approach United have taken for so long to try and get a fee for a player that ends up just staying longer than they should.

There's no doubt that De Gea is a world class shot stopper. He's one of the best in that respect. But he doesn't play as a sweeper keeper, his distribution isn't good enough and he doesn't fit what ETH is going to want to do.

If United keep De Gea long term then that shows they've learnt nothing from these failings. And if that's the approach they are going to continue with then unfortunately ETH is going to fail through no fault of his own.

De Gea has had a great year so I'm not saying he deserves to go on that basis. And this summer absolutely there are bigger needs so he stays this year for that. But giving him a new deal is just a mistake.
 
De Gea has the best positive xg in the league. If there is one spot that's safe it's his. There are ranging opinions we need a new RB, New CB and new LB. So we need some long term stability at the back.
 
De Gea has the best positive xg in the league. If there is one spot that's safe it's his. There are ranging opinions we need a new RB, New CB and new LB. So we need some long term stability at the back.
And look for this year yes I think you are right. But next summer it needs to be one of their priorities.
 
And look for this year yes I think you are right. But next summer it needs to be one of their priorities.

We'll see how ETH gets on with him. Stekelenberg wasn't a known footballing keeper and worked fine when dropped in to ETH tactics. So he may not require too much that De Gea can't do.

Obviously if as the season goes on it becomes clear De Gea is a weak link on the system then we'll have to bring someone else in but the money you're talking for keepers now days I don't think we can afford to look at replacing him probably this summer or next with the number of signings needed elsewhere.
 
That xG thing is measuring his shot stopping which we know is world class but that quality is exagerrated because the opponent gets so many chances against Utd. The new manager has to produce a style of football where our keeper isn’t making 3 or 4 saves a game. He made 128 saves this season in the league, Alison made 76, Ederson 60 & Mendy 73 Utd can’t be asking our keeper to make that sort of level of saves.

As for Stekelenberg he came in because the number 1 Onanna got himself banned for taking cold medicine that contained a banned substance.

Mendy - 15m
Maignan - 13m
Ederson - 35m

You can certainly waste a lot of money if you pick badly like Chelsea did with Kepa but you can find good keepers if you scout sensibly.

My guess is De Gea wants a new deal he’s only got 12 months left on this one and he knows he’s not leaving Utd for a bigger or better gig now the only way for him is down. He was very good this season but the two previous seasons he was awful Utd can’t keep handing out big contracts off the back of a good season.

The club have to be sensible I wouldn’t rush it now let ETH work closely with him if he thinks it’s going to work then sort him out with a new deal if he isn’t sure be brave and move on. I’d start talks but I’d be waiting 6 months before pushing the button on it see how he gets on as the wages to keep him will be big.
 
Yeah I know why he came in that's why I phrased it as dropped in to the system. My point is that he's a similar style keeper to Dave and he was fine in ETH system.
 
I think the CB is where most of the play will begin, what De Gea needs to develop is coming out and sweeping up, and that will be easier than learning to be a ball player
 
I think it’s integral if you are drawing the opponent on to you as a keeper you need to hit passes both long and short firmly and accurately to beat the opponents press. You also need to be comfortable receiving the ball and be willing to come well off your line something he just isn’t. I just don’t think De Gea has that in his locker but there are other areas to address first.

If he wasn’t on such bonkers wages I’d probably say give him a new deal and see how it goes but is he willing to take a 50% pay cut? His wages are reported to be up around the £300k mark that salary needs to come way down to justify his worth.

I never watch Ajax so I can’t really say how Stekelenberg adapted but early In the season when we tried playing short on goal kicks it was a disaster and I felt that De Gea was a part of that issue.
 
I just don’t think De Gea has that in his locker but there are other areas to address first.
He doesn't and fundamentally that's an issue in a pressing system. Imagine the gaping chasm between defense and GK where the GK is in his 6 yard line and the defense on the halfway line. Because that's essentially what we are saying here. It just doesn't work. And that's without even considering his inability to play out from the back.

And so potentially ETH is being hampered from the off. He's going to have a GK who can't play his system and a Striker who doesn't press and isn't going to be the trigger for the press.
 
If we give him a new contract and make him Captain i'm off to support Liverpool.

#tenhagout
 

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