Donny Van De Beek l Match Discussion Thread 2021/22

you know what I mean, they've been terrible and Donny hasn't had a look in. It took up to the Liverpool drubbing to even try something new.
 
True but he's one of many who because we went out of the league cup lost game time.

Players like Henderson, Telles, Dalot, Bailly, Martial, Lingard, Mata and Donny will be feeding off scraps now as he won't trust them in league games or champions league unless injuries force him to.

This is where the lack of system for me really shows up because if there was a system that everyone knew and understood these players could come in and do the job which is how the rotation works at other clubs. All those centre mids at City or Liverpool can rotate because they all know exactly what the team needs them to do before they step on the pitch.
 
Yep made a positive impact when he came on even if it was only for 5 minutes and fair play to Ole for subbing Bruno who'd totally dissapeared second half as he was marked out of the game.
Agreed! Perhaps should have done it sooner though because Atalanta changed their tactics to mark Bruno out of the game.
 
Agreed! Perhaps should have done it sooner though because Atalanta changed their tactics to mark Bruno out of the game.

Think he would have got longer but seemed to take a good 5 minutes for the final subs to actually be made but yeah a change could have come a bit earlier but with Bruno you know he’s got the moment of magic in him like the assist for Ronaldo.
 
Hard to take any positives at the moment but he played really when he came on. Looked like he came on trying to prove a point and obviously got himself a goal. Needs to start the next game whether Ole is here or not.
 
Did very well when he came on just need to find the right position for him now, left of a three(vd Beek, Bruno, Sancho) behind Ronaldo methinks with Cavani and Greenwood out, and Rashford picking up a knock, and Martial being erm Martial.
 
Hard to take any positives at the moment but he played really when he came on. Looked like he came on trying to prove a point and obviously got himself a goal. Needs to start the next game whether Ole is here or not.
Watch him become the lynchpin in the next manager's side. Ironically, VDB busting a gut to prove himself is exactly what everyone else in our team was lacking today. VDB played like his hair was on fire, everyone else played like they couldn't remember if they put their boots on the right feet, just shit-scared calamity merchants.
 
Have to wonder why he didn’t start him?

I watched most of the second half and before the red card he was excellent he’s earned more chances.
 
Have to wonder why he didn’t start him?

I watched most of the second half and before the red card he was excellent he’s earned more chances.
Yeah it is baffling. Unlike some I do not think Donny is the answer to all our problems, but given the lack of quality in our midfield it is odd he could not get more minutes to prove himself.
 
Yeah it is baffling. Unlike some I do not think Donny is the answer to all our problems, but given the lack of quality in our midfield it is odd he could not get more minutes to prove himself.

Yeah given McTominay’s form this season hasn’t been great it’s been a bit baffling that we haven’t seen him.

I thought he’d be nailed on to start yesterday.
 
Ole just didn’t fancy him. He was criminally under used in the last few weeks - sure he’s not the answer to all our problems but the form of McT and Fred has been horrendous which in itself warranted him getting some more game time.

It’s sad to see Ole go but yesterdays goal and the new man coming in could be the making of DVB’s career.
 
Latest comments from the manager regarding his future

"He's a team player through and through and there will be games where he will get his chance to play I'm sure," Rangnick said. "I also had a longer conversation with him last week about that and, again, of course it's difficult for him right now because he also wants to play for the Dutch national team.

"He wants to qualify for himself and play in the World Cup in Qatar and in order to do that he needs to get game time here. But I still believe that we should keep him, that he should stay here, definitely until the end of this season and try to get as much game-time as he possibly can."
 
Not surprised he's not starting games, but am he's not getting more opportunities to come on as in impact sub. Strange.
 
According to the Telegraph he's turned down a loan move to Newcastle due to their position in the table.

They're not normally in the business of transfer gossip but surely the biggest thing for him now is to play football he needs to get out of Utd for the rest of the season in my opinion.

The club put all over it's social media yesterday that he's now made 50 appearences for the club which I'll be honest surprised me.
 
According to the Telegraph he's turned down a loan move to Newcastle due to their position in the table.

They're not normally in the business of transfer gossip but surely the biggest thing for him now is to play football he needs to get out of Utd for the rest of the season in my opinion.

The club put all over it's social media yesterday that he's now made 50 appearences for the club which I'll be honest surprised me.
Probably the same amount of minutes as appearances
 
Probably the same amount of minutes as appearances

That did seem to be the running joke amongst the responses most were along the lines of still hasn't played 90 minutes.

Shows how brain dead our social media team are after that result vs Villa what Utd fan wants to see a post about him reaching 50 games.
 
To be honest I don't really care about his feelings I just think the club are rubbing the fans nose in it a bit with the social media it isn't taking into consideration the mood of the support.

We've just blown a 2 goal lead vs Villa and they're posting stuff about celebrating Bruno scoring 2 goals, of VDB getting to 50 like it's some sort of achievement that will cheer us up.

Sunday should have been a day off bit of radio silence required let things settle for 24 hours then go back to trying to sell me another training top or whatever else it is you're flogging.
 
I want to know what the truth is with Martial, not that DVDB has 50 appearances totaling 20 mins.

I want to know what the problems are Ronaldo is talking about.

Tell the fans wtf is going on and why we are so shocking. Because listening and watching united is the worst part of my week at the moment. I dread it. It's like some sickness, I have to watch them, becasue I love them, but I hate it
 
No don’t tell us go and fix them.

I don’t care what the truth is about Martial I just are that he leaves this month.

You then get the players posting “the winning team” photos for winning a kick about in training. That needs to stop who cares who won the 7 a-side in training.
 

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