The Royal Family

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I think the Royals bring a certain identity to the UK, a certain prestige, and having grown up with them all through life I feel a certain identity with them.
The Queen of course has been a wonderful servant to this country and I have always liked old Charlie.
Of course some have let the side down, we know who they are but the main senior Royals have always been great ambassadors for the country. Princess Anne has been a great no nonsense character who played down a serious kidnap attempt as a minor inconvenience and done us proud at the Olympics as her daughter Zara subsequently did.
Prince William seems likely to keep the Royal family on the right track, but of course Harry has shown rebellious signs from an early age and will likely fade into the background.
I was once, in the early 90s fortunate enough to have prime Horse Guard Parade tickets for Trooping of Colour due to having a Coldstream Guards connection at Wellington Barracks.
It's a great spectacle, I like a bit of pomp and circumstance. Long may it continue.
 

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Can't really say I'm a fan of them I don't really think they should receive a penny from the public purse.

I notice you left off one of the princes who's got himself in a bit of bother with the law certainly his fondness of young women and his close ties to Epstien have left him in big trouble.

The only thing I ever really cared about was the two brothers William and Harry what happened to their mother must have been tough and both seem to have grown up into decent guys. Very different people William very much following his fathers footsteps and Harry following his mothers and it's fair to say Harry has had it much harder from the family and the press over his choice in wife.
 

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I quite like the Royals, apart from Andrew who has always come accross as a twat.

Meghan I'm unsure of, she seems a bit manipulative, but that could just be the way the press are treating them after trying to sue them. So I'm trying to keep an open mind.

I've no thoughts on how they are funded, I guess a lot of people come to the UK just for that, and they go around being great ambassadors, mostly.
 

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For me the funding thing just doesn't wash in a modern democracy you have a family who have sovereign wealth and own huge chunks of land all over the country being paid out of the public purse every year. There is absolutely no reason that family can't fund it's own lifestyle.

As for Meghan her face just doesn't fit with the establishment. She isn't one of them and people who don't come from that background always get a rough ride from the press. The fact she's got a very fractured relationship with her own family who don't mind throwing fuel on to the fire has basically given the press free reign to go after her.
 

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Kate is a "commoner" too don't forget. I don't tink it's anything to do with the establishment.

I think they got up the nose of the press by not playing the game and then trying to sue them. And Harry was a bit like that with the press before she came along because of his mother, so that's not down to her.
 

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Not sure you can really call Kate a commoner she's not royalty but she's from a rich family and met William at a top university plus lets be honest she's also British which probably helps in terms of being accepted.

Yeah you attack the press at your own risk but it's good to have the press held to account they can't just write what they want and set their agendas when they cross lines they need to have their wings clipped. Doing that is tough though because you also need a free press in a functioning democracy. There's always a moral question of how much of your private life should be made public when you are a public figure you use the press to build your reputation/image as an actor so when they discover something that contradicts the image you portray are they right to expose that?

Harry has always had a difficult relationship with the press he's been caught out a few times by them and obviously as he's got older he's probably become more aware of what happened to his mum in the press as well.
 

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Don’t really care for any of them to be honest. They don’t enrich my life in anyway.
 

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I quite like the Royals, apart from Andrew who has always come accross as a twat.

Meghan I'm unsure of, she seems a bit manipulative, but that could just be the way the press are treating them after trying to sue them. So I'm trying to keep an open mind.

I've no thoughts on how they are funded, I guess a lot of people come to the UK just for that, and they go around being great ambassadors, mostly.
It could be you are simply having trouble accepting black blood into the Royal family, even if this is subconsciously. It would be foolish to not recognise that this is an issue for many. It most likely is within the Royal family if truth be told.
 

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No, i'm being influenced by the press, as I said in my comment, so I am trying to give her the benefit of doubt as I know the press have an agenda against them as a couple.

I have black members of my own family, why would I care about the royal family having black members
 

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Maybe it was just coincidental you honed in on Meghan as the one you were unsure of. Regardless, the fact she is from black stock you can be sure is an issue for many and most probably even some within the Royal family.
Whatever, it has to be said that her entry into the Royal family has been a fairly disruptive one, unlike Kate who is far from a commoner.
 

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You only need to look at the papers, Kate is photo'd helping out, Meghan is always causing trouble. This is what I'm saying, the press are really in to them. And I don't think it's because of skin colour, I just think the pair of them picked the wrong fight.

So I try not let that papers sway me, she seems ok to me even though the papers are trying tell me she's not.
 

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They are hugely marketable to keep the tourists coming in to the country but I really have no time for them. They have no influence on anything really anymore.
 

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Didn't the queen boost morale with her Covid speech?
 

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Anyone says anything about the Queen is up for a boppin
 

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Did she? I thought it was rather uninspiring but then I'm no fan of the royal family.
I think most found it amusing rather than uplifting.

‘we’re all on this together’ from her castle whilst many going through this are stuck in a 2 bedroom overcrowded council house.

I don’t dislike the royals I just don’t see the point. People mention tourism they bring in. Do people really think if we removed the royals that tourist would stop visiting London? What’s people’s reasoning for visiting New York then?

There shouldn’t be any place in society for them now days.
 

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I think most found it amusing rather than uplifting.

‘we’re all on this together’ from her castle whilst many going through this are stuck in a 2 bedroom overcrowded council house.

I don’t dislike the royals I just don’t see the point. People mention tourism they bring in. Do people really think if we removed the royals that tourist would stop visiting London? What’s people’s reasoning for visiting New York then?

There shouldn’t be any place in society for them now days.
Exactly how I feel bud. I don't dislike them as I don't know them but I don't see the value they add. And they cost us a fortune to keep around.

I agree with your points on tourism.

And for what it's worth... Buckingham Palace is technically a council house...
 

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maybe it depends on age? I remember the street parties at the silver jubilee, I feel like I've kind of grown up with her. I like her.

I don't think it's just tourists coming here, it's more when they go visiting other countries.

Certainly the two boys seem to try and do a fair bit socially too.
 

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Also Meghan Markle would easily be my favourite if the lot. Prince Harry is a very lucky boy.

I think frustrations grew because they didn’t want her to carry on with what her traditional charity work was and from there the cracks within the family started.

Also she’s a self made millionaire people seem to forget that and think she’s some sort of gold digger.
 

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Exactly how I feel bud. I don't dislike them as I don't know them but I don't see the value they add. And they cost us a fortune to keep around.

I agree with your points on tourism.

And for what it's worth... Buckingham Palace is technically a council house...
What made me think you were American?
 

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Confusing him with Cosmic on a post they were agreeing on? I think Cosmic is the only regular American poster.
 

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Apart from the obvious wrong'un they seem like reasonably decent people they just live in a world that none of us can even comprehend living in.

The idea of royalty in a modern society just doesn't make sense anymore one family having control of all that wealth which in theory belongs to the people but yet we give them more every year when the country is running up debts while still slashing public services left, right and centre for the last decade.

I never bought the tourism argument the UK is full of historic places, has great cities, a massive cultural history, sporting history, puts on huge events etc this is why people visit the UK. They're not coming for the sunshine.
 

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