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Six Nations 2017

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  1. JSNFRMN_MUFC

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    Huge performance from Scotland there to beat Ireland. The Gray brothers absolutely immense at second row. Great game to start the championship. Bonus points seem to have helped, but too early to make a definite statement on that.

    Le Crunch up next!
     
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    Poor performance by England, there was no cohesion or quality, although credit to France for making England play poorly.
     
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    Thought England looked rattled from the start. France lacking that ability to turn pressure into points apart from the try and that missed kick to touch at the end further summed France up at this point. England with their winning streak made it count when needed, more expected of them though especially at home.

    Looking forward to Wales tomorrow. Lots of sub plots could emerge, win with a performance and it's the "start of a new era". Win ugly and it's "same old Wales". Lose and it's "the beginning of the end". I was optimistic when the squad was announced last month with a few uncapped players named but none of those named in 23 tomorrow and unless we lose tomorrow or there are injuries it's unlikely they will get a chance during the tournament. Thomas Young of Wasps should be on the bench at least. There's a lot of Welsh people predicting we'll finish 5th which says a lot about the mood right now. I think a finish of 4th or 5th would signal the need for change unless there are signs of improvement late during the tournament. We've stood still since winning the championship in 2013 while others have progressed beyond us. Failure this campaign would mark 4 years of doing nothing.
     
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    Not entirely sure what to make of that. Very poor first half from Wales. Improved 2nd half with enforced fly half change and change in front row which gave us upper hand in scrum which led to Italy playing 10 mins with 14 men. Thought Warburton was excellent, AWJ too as usual, Sam Davies great, Jon Davies much improved than he has been playing alongside form centre Williams. Great to see North looking for work and score that 60 metre try despite having a dead leg.

    Good opening weekend. Heats up next weekend!
     
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    Possibly the first game I've watched Ireland play in a long time where we've been out-thought by the opposition. Cotter had us sussed really well and Scotland executed magnificently. As much as Scotland deserved the win, it's still a big shame we didn't strangle them when we got ahead with 18 mins to go - a bonus point win was well on the cards. Anyway it was a great match and credit to Scotland.

    Was very impressed with France against England - they look a very different outfit under Noves. Their two wingers are such a threat when the game opens up. Well done to England for scraping through to get the win though, they never looked like panicking. Former Leinster man Teo with a big impact, was quality at Leinster so it's no surprise to see him follow that up at International level.

    I only caught the highlights of Wales but no surprise to hear that Sam Davies made a positive impact, he's a brilliant talent and is breathing down Biggar's neck for the 10 shirt. North's try was excellent - wouldn't be surprised if he has a big tournament ahead of the summer.
     
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    Yeah France were impressive, fitness told in the end, taking the scrum half off at 50 mins was strange too, he was having a great game! Picamoles didn't deserve to be on a losing team this weekend, telling that he plays in England, fitness above those around him.

    Scotland - France at the weekend looking a potentially great game.
     
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    England leave it late again. Absorbing game.
     
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    Cracking game. Probably Wales' best performance in a few years, probably since nearly beating South Africa away in 2014, threw it away at the end, a common theme for us in big, tight games. Poor game management, we can be really clueless at times. No idea why Davies is kicking at the end, hard to get distance and find touch with left foot from there, had to be a right footer. Some strange subs too from Howley. Moriarty having a stormer and we bring Faletau on 10 minutes into 2nd half when he hasn't played this year. Scott Williams excellent, taken off for Roberts with 10 to go. Biggar an injury doubt before the game ended up playing the full 80, Sam Davies the only unused sub, Howley too conservative, showed no confidence in Davies.

    Our championship hopes pretty much over after not getting a bonus point out in Italy. Scotland away next, gonna be tough.
     
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    Thoughts on Italy's tactics against England?
     
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    Loved it. They needed to do something outside the box to compete, better than seeing them lose by 60 points again. They know they can't match the other teams in the tournament on ability so they have to think better and yesterday they out thought England in the first half anyway, perhaps as Lawrence Dallaglio said at half time, Italy should have stopped doing it at the start of the second half and then gone back to doing it, just to confuse England even more.

    It wasn't a new tactic, it was funny to hear Haskell even admit he'd come up against the tactic when playing for Wasps against Toulouse, although he seemed the most confused of anyone by it during the game, surely you know what to do if you've come up against it before? Also surprised Jones waited until half time to tell the players how to counter it.
     
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    There will be some battered bodies after Wales-Ireland.
     
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    What a game. Big response from us and some players who were under immense pressure. Think we simply wanted it more. Ireland had much more variety to their attacks than us but our defence was immense. As I said midweek though, without building on this, it's just another false dawn.
     
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    Well done to England - they had been winning without playing well and as someone said 'imagine what they will be like when they do give a good showing'. Scotland were on the receiving end of that! Seriously impressive showing.

    Well done to Wales also, I thought their back row was immense. I feel Ireland, like the Scotland game, butchered it for ourselves a bit but that's sport. I really feel that our second rows is our biggest weakness in comparison to other sides - one of the areas we have butchered things mostly in the last few games.

    Ahead of next week, Ireland are also due a good showing so I'm hoping both sides give the best possible account of themselves because it beckons to be a cracking game, even if the Championship is sewn up.
     
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    I was surprised by how many lineouts we pinched off you, been one of our downfalls for a while. Scrums pretty even which has also been a weakness for us.

    Lot still to play for next weekend even if Championship gone. Playing for ranking places ahead of World Cup draw, I think if Wales win and Ireland lose, they could replace Ireland in 4th, might be wrong. Ireland will want to stop England winning the triple crown and grand slam.
     
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    Never seen anything like that France Wales game yesterday. Shambolic really. Didn't watch the Ireland - England game, any good?
     

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