Paul Pogba | Match Discussion thread 2019/20

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Sideshow Bob

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Premier League: Manchester United 4-0 Chelsea - 11th August 2019

He was excellent in the second half.
 

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Incredible pass for Rash and that's what he brings. But overall I definitely want to see more but hey a couple of days ago he was a doubt for the game so maybe he wasn't fully fit.
 

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He will always divide opinion at United but let's be honest, if he doesn't create goals from midfield nobody else will
 

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great ball.

I think he metioned leaving in an interview afterwards again :-/

Surely we wouldn't let him go now.
 

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He said in the interview there will always be a question mark about his future but he’s enjoying his football and winning with his team mates. No need to say it really.
 

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oh, not so bad then

He looked happy enough yesterday, hopefully we'll move forward and he'll see the benefit in staying, sign a new deal.
 

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Sorry but for all this guys talents he's an absolute arse hole off of it. We've just hammered a team we expect to be in and around us in the league table. It was a good clinical display, a clean sheet at home and many reasons to be optimistic. And there's this idiot making these comments.

Keep him this season and then dump him off next summer. I can't stand his antics.
 

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Very few midfielders in world football give you what he gives you going forward that pass for Rashford and the driving run through the heart of Chelsea to setup James very few midfield player combine the physical and technical qualities he had and that's just a fact.

Question is has he fully accepted that he's got to stick around or is there still one more twist to come if Madrid panic and try to make a move late in the window?
 

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I read Madrid wanted a big galactico moment at the last minute, Pogba and Neymar.

I don't see how they will have the money, but I'd be amazed if we let him go now, we would write off 4th place.
 

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Madrid can always find cash from somewhere it's not as easy as it once was because of financial problems in Spain but they can normally find a Spanish bank looking to give them a loan at preferential rates from memory it just needs to be under written by Perez because no president can put debt directly on the club due to the way it is setup.

I don't see them doing anything unless they get Bale and James out the door and my guess is they'd be going Eriksen first ahead of Pogba as the numbers involved are just so different.

I just saw the quotes he made post game nothing to surprising really doesn't really change anything it's the same it's been all summer unless someone comes with a big enough offer to change our minds he's going nowhere. I think he knows that and so does his agent who is the man who needs to go and bring that offer to Utd as far as we know he's only given us one stinking offer from Madrid.

My guess is he knows it's head down aim to do the best he can with us, have a great euro 2020, one year less on his deal might bring the price down a little and see what there is next summer. I don't think he hates being at Utd he just wants to be somewhere better where he's got a better chance of winning.
 

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yeah, I think some gloss has been added in translation there.

If I were Madrid, I might go Erikson over Pogba, for the difference in cost, Erikson is a steal
 

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Think it's all very political at Madrid right now Zidane really wants Pogba and he's not happy about the club pulling the plug on deals to get Bale and James out which is what he wants so if Perez goes and tells him you can't have Pogba here's Eriksen he might not be to happy. Apparently one of the big things about him coming back was assurances over more control over the ins and outs in the squad.

I guess if he stays the testing time will come after loses as it always seems to be the same old story whenever this team loses and game Pogba is the first man being hung out to dry by the media and while he obviously contributes to both good and bad results there's 11 players out on the pitch so it's time collective responsibility was taken.
 

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I have a feeling, with no Ronaldo, Zidane is going to be found out quite quickly.

Perez is probably thinking he deosn't want to spend 150m on Pogba when Jose will be rocking up soon.
 

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I have a feeling, with no Ronaldo, Zidane is going to be found out quite quickly.

Perez is probably thinking he deosn't want to spend 150m on Pogba when Jose will be rocking up soon.
It's not just no Ronaldo key players like Ramos, Marcelo and Modric are all showing their age and the younger guys they've got in to replace them are taking time to settle in.

I don't think people got to carried away with Zidane suddenly being a super coach 3 CL's in a row was always treated with some scepticism and rightly so as the league form in his final season was poor that said I think he did do some clever things when he took over changing the shape of the team but a lot of that was largely down to him being big enough of a name to be able to drop the presidents galactico names.

Apparently one of the things he wanted to do when he came back was shift a few of the big names out Modric, James, Bale even Ramos according to some rumours as he realised with them around the new guys would always struggle as fans/media would always call for these guys to come in especially Ramos. He wanted to start a full rebuild and he saw Pogba as vital to reinvigorate a midfield that looked well past it's best last season.

I actually think Madrid will wait 1 more year on Pogba and I don't think they'll take Eriksen in a panic move if he isn't someone they really want.
 

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well then that's a year to try and convince were are getting there and he should stay.
 

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To be honest I think the ship has sailed with him he wants to win leagues and champions leagues and we are a long way from doing that so his bags are packed really what needs to happen is get a deal done with Madrid early for next summer and move on like they did with Ronaldo hopefully Pogba knowing he's got his move gets his head down gives everything he can for Utd this season and goes on a positive note with the fans. If he keeps performing the way he did yesterday on a regular basis I think he'd go with most fans blessings.

I think Pogba knows putting this club back together into a position where it can challenge for the big titles best case takes 2 seasons realistically it might take even longer and he's not prepared to hang around and wait for us to get it right.
 

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