Mauricio Pochettino at Tottenham Hotspur 2018/19

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It's quite incredible what Poch has managed to do with such limited funds. I'd love to see him here to see what he could do with some backing.
Also not having this. Yes he hasn’t spent much money but he’s been lucky to have one of the worlds best strikers fall at his feet. You’re looking at £150m there. Deli Alli was signed before Poch turned up now days you’re looking at £50m there.

The money hasn’t been spent but he has a squad that should be winning trophies
 

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Well Poch actually signed Alli so he’s got to be applauded for that. Also he has made plenty of astute signings like Sanchez, Alderweireld and Trippier.

Also I think it’s easy to say that Kane fell at his feet but he was the manager who gave him more of a chance so he has to be given credit for that.

I agree that he has a decent squad and probably should have won more, they definitely missed their chance in the season when Leicester won the title but I think beyond Eriksen, Son (who he bought and it’s proved a master stroke of a signing) and Kane I don’t think their squad is backed with star quality. What he continues to do with Spurs is impressive.
 

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Deli Alli was signed 18 months before he moved to Tottenham.
 

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Also Sanchez at £40m wasn’t an astute signing
 

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Deli Alli was signed 18 months before he moved to Tottenham.
Poch appointed 2014, Alli signed 2015.

Prices are irrelevant these days, Sanchez was still a very good signing irrespective of the price tag.
 

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we don't even know if he had an involvement in who they signed. I imagine their scouts do the work.

He is a great manager no doubt, but he should have won something wth that team. I don't think his attitude towards the cups is great and he needs to change that if he wants to take the next step. We have Ole saying Man Utd expect to win every game. And Poch saying losing cup matches don't matter. If he didn't say things like that maybe they would have won one by now.
 

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Spurs don't necessarily allow managers to sign players they have a team of people who manage the signings and while he's had some bangers no doubt he tipped them off about the clause that allowed them to get Alderwiereld, I don't think he's that involved in the recruitment of players at Spurs. I think modern managers are happy to stay out of that now as it brings pressure you don't need to the job. If he came to Utd they'd need to get the same sort of structure Spurs have in place for him.

Just because a manager can do a job with no money doesn't mean they can do a job with money and Utd can't claim poverty like Spurs have done in the past to get deals done.

The main change will be that he'd be coming to a club where fans expect to win not a club where it would be nice to win.

There's nothing I've seen in him that suggests he couldn't do the job if given the chance at a club with bigger resources the only thing he'd need to adapt to is managing a bigger squad keeping everyone fresh but also happy.

The main thing I like about Poch is he seems to get the players to come round to his methods and buy into a team ethic even if they were big names at previous clubs, they sacrifice themselves for each other on the pitch.
 

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They're 5 points off the leaders with 13 games to go and no one is even talking about them being in the title race. Surely another side and they'd be mentioned but no one at all is considering them as potential league winners. They're out of the FA Cup so have no excuse there. But all anyone is talking about is them getting top 4 again. They don't have the winning mentality required.
 

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They're 5 points off the leaders with 13 games to go and no one is even talking about them being in the title race. Surely another side and they'd be mentioned but no one at all is considering them as potential league winners. They're out of the FA Cup so have no excuse there. But all anyone is talking about is them getting top 4 again. They don't have the winning mentality required.
The narrative changes like the wind with Spurs a week ago that gap was 9 points and they were the club in crisis if they win again at the weekend I think people will be talking of a 3 horse race again but so far this season they've always looked at best the 3rd horse in a 3 horse race they've never gone to the top of the table whereas City & Liverpool have.

Leicester (H)
Burnley (A)
Chelsea (A)
Arsenal (H)

That's the next 4 in the league if they can come through that with 9 points they'll be right in it I think.
 

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Also not having this. Yes he hasn’t spent much money but he’s been lucky to have one of the worlds best strikers fall at his feet.
So if Ole gets the job full time at United... You give him no credit? Because the players fell in to his lap.
 

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So if Ole gets the job full time at United... You give him no credit? Because the players fell in to his lap.
I certainly wont be praising him for having Rashford and Martial. Players that were here before he was signed.

Mourinho achieved more with this group of players than Poch has his. Poch isn't a winner and that is something that needs to change. It's not just at Tottenham he's won nothing it's his entire career. Ole even though he hasn't done much as a manager is at least used to winning. 2 Norwegian league titles and the Norwegian cup whilst not anything to shout about shows a winning mentality.

Even as a player Poch won 1 league title and 2 spanish cups and I think the winning mentality is a key part of being a manager. Poch doesn't have the final killer instinct for it. I believe it's 3 semi finals lost in 3 seasons in a row now?

And these comments: “Tottenham, no history of winning,” said Pochettino. “Our glory, I watch the video about the glory, it’s with (Bill) Nicholson. It’s black and white and I watch it nearly every week. To create again that feeling you need time. Four years, five years, that’s nothing in the history of the club.”

3 years running you've lost a semi final when entering it favourite. Stop with the excuses.
 

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I certainly wont be praising him for having Rashford and Martial. Players that were here before he was signed.
So a coach doesn't get credit and praise for developing players and making them fulfil their potential no? That's nothing to do with the coach.
 

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You would be hard pressed to give him no credit at all for getting a tune out of players Jose practically ruined.
 

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So a coach doesn't get credit and praise for developing players and making them fulfil their potential no? That's nothing to do with the coach.
Rashford turn in form happened under Mourinho. Rashford has an FA Cup medal, league cup medal and Europa league medal he’s not suddenly some player Ole made.
 

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Also not having this. Yes he hasn’t spent much money but he’s been lucky to have one of the worlds best strikers fall at his feet. You’re looking at £150m there. Deli Alli was signed before Poch turned up now days you’re looking at £50m there.

The money hasn’t been spent but he has a squad that should be winning trophies
Kane didn't fall at Pochettino's feet. He had two average loan spells (2 goals in 20 appearances) before his first start in the league - only a month prior Pochettino was appointed manager at Spurs. Pochettino put faith in a young striker. Mourinho could have put faith in Rashford - a young striker who had a better record at a higher level than Kane, but he decided to buy Lukaku.
 

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Rashford turn in form happened under Mourinho. Rashford has an FA Cup medal, league cup medal and Europa league medal he’s not suddenly some player Ole made.
Are you in denial? Rashford has looked a completely different player under Ole. Playing in Central striker position has transformed this team and his form.
 

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Premier League: Tottenham Hotspur 3-1 Leicester City - 10th February 2019

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