Sideshow Bob
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He believes in something that is a direct result of his history. Maybe he believes he can help kids. Keep going Marcus; never let the blue rinses put you off.I think he should curb the unnecessary bellicose and agitative narrative
Err, am I being called a blue rinse here? Where's this head honcho that's suddenly made an appearance to sort this shit out!!He believes in something that is a direct result of his history. Maybe he believes he can help kids. Keep going Marcus; never let the blue rinses put you off.
Tell you where I am with this and I really am happy to be corrected. Do we really have starving children in this country in this day and age?After watching the Tory MP refuse to deal with the issue of hungry kids by trotting out the abject argument about not nationalising children, I fail to see how anyone could disagree with Rashford's stance.
@Stretford End Arising will sort this shit out, don’t you worry...Err, am I being called a blue rinse here? Where's this head honcho that's suddenly made an appearance to sort this shit out!!
Tell you where I am with this and I really am happy to be corrected. Do we really have starving children in this country in this day and age?
Nope, homelessness is a completely different issue and it can be very difficult to get out of once you are in that predicament. I have been there and understand it totally. Marcus Rashford hasn’t and that is not what his campaign is about.Yes we do. Your comments are so far removed from the reality of life that I think you've found yourself detached from the very problem Marcus is trying to deal with. Much like the MP's Marcus is trying to educate.
We also have an insanely high homelessness rate. Something else you wouldn't expect to be true in this day and age. 220k people last year were threatened with homelessness. 1 in 52* people in London are homeless. That should give you an idea of how poverty striken people still are 'in this day and age'. The fact charities are relied on to do the work instead of our government stepping up is a major issue. Though maybe you could blame the homelessness on 'lazy fat asses' instead of realizing we have a major problem with the way we view and treat the poor in this country.
*As of December 2019. Pre-Covid. The situation is probably even worse now.
No it certainly isn't the child's fault but in such cases maybe a campaign for responsible parenting would be best.lets say all of what you say is true, which I don't think is the case myself, is it the childs fault its parents are irresponsible?
Every child should have a decent well balanced diet as a minimum.
I don't doubt there are many geniune cases of hardship but there is a flip side which I am highlighting.But that isn't what Rashfords campaign is solely about and a massive point you're missing.
There are households I know of where both parents work and yet they rely on Food Banks.
Two full time working people on minimum wage between them would take home £2,524. Say you've got a 5 yr old and a 2 yr old. The cost of private renting is sky high and we have a lack of social housing. A tiny two bedroom house for the 4 people say the rent is £1,300. Nursury cost £800. Council tax £200. Electric+Gas in the winter £150. This is before you have even factored in travel to work, childrens clothes and any food. I've given you an every day situation currently on going for many families. Then do all this but take away the second parent and then say it's because they're lazy. It's simply not the case is most instances. Most the time people do not want to be on benefits. There'll be the odd cases that do but most don't.
You can see why people can't survive and they're actually better off not working and claiming benefits?
I've lived this. At one point growing up we done the calculations and would have been better off by £30 a week if my Mum quit her job. (She didn't have time to go and qualify until after the kids had grown up)
People, especially in the current climate are struggling to make ends meet. To turn down kids a hot meal a day which should be a basic right for any kid is ridiculous.
Thats a ridiculous thing to be highlighting. The room I shared with my brother didnt have any heating at all. In the winter the hot water bottle went in the bed a half hour before we did and I had an army greatcoat over me acting as a bedspread. No harm done at all. If they are able to use £150 a month on fuel they really arent doing too bad at all.Electric+Gas in the winter £150
And there you have it. People are already being supported so as they are better off than they would be if they went to work. If you are depending on the state to support you through life you have no entitlement to expect luxuries or the life of Riley. You will need to budget, prioritise and sometimes go without. That's a simple fact of life.You can see why people can't survive and they're actually better off not working and claiming benefits?
I would never suggest turning down a hot meal a day to a kid. But that can be achieved cheaply. Like I said before, you will find many of them are obese.People, especially in the current climate are struggling to make ends meet. To turn down kids a hot meal a day which should be a basic right for any kid is ridiculous.
You're making a massive generalization about something you clearly have no clue about. Detached from the reality of living in the real world. Enjoy that bottle of red with your expensive dinner whilst moaning about a kid getting a hot meal from the government. (That they should be getting anyway but too many people share your views on the poor and lack basic empathy)I would never suggest turning down a hot meal a day to a kid. But that can be achieved cheaply. Like I said before, you will find many of them are obese.
Are you denying that many of these kids are obese due to a very poor diet and over eating?You're making a massive generalization about something you clearly have no clue about. Detached from the reality of living in the real world. Enjoy that bottle of red with your expensive dinner whilst moaning about a kid getting a hot meal from the government. (That they should be getting anyway but too many people share your views on the poor and lack basic empathy)
Are you denying that many of these kids are obese due to a very poor diet and over eating?
And that is the point I made above about responsible parenting.Kids are obese for a number of reasons but normally it starts from poor eating habits of parents being passed down to kids not just the kids that are obese in this country. Quick easy meals/snacks loaded with rubbish being given to kids rather than a proper balanced diet. This goes alongside a lack of exercise for a lot of kids who apart from a couple of hours of PE a week in school get very little exercise.
How many kids relying on a free school meal do you think are likely to be obese?
Another side to this is, if I suspected any of my friends or even neighbours were struggling to this extent I would do something about it. Friends, family and even just neighbours are bona fida ways of dealing with these social issues.I'm saying the majority of kids that rely on food banks and free school dinners are very unlikely to be obese.
I'm telling you you're wrong with your generalisation that most people on benefits are obese too.
I have just had my tea and settling down to the telly I found the programme Eat Well For Less to be on. It prompted me to work out how much my tea cost. Here it is:You're making a massive generalization about something you clearly have no clue about. Detached from the reality of living in the real world. Enjoy that bottle of red with your expensive dinner whilst moaning about a kid getting a hot meal from the government. (That they should be getting anyway but too many people share your views on the poor and lack basic empathy)
I've volunteered at a food bank on Saturday mornings for years. You're so wrong.
Another side to this is, if I suspected any of my friends or even neighbours were struggling to this extent I would do something about it. Friends, family and even just neighbours are bona fida ways of dealing with these social issues.
I caught the salmon in the River Tweed when I was in Scotland last weekHow much was your salmon fillet?
Mainly because either your portions are tiny or your math is incorrect.
Though I do find it amusing you don't understand just how poor people are that they don't have £35 spare plus breakfast and lunch during a pandemic when not allowed to work or made redundant in many instances. This isn't being asked to be extended forever. Until restrictions have been lifted.
To vote against it has caused an embarrassment.
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