European Premier League: Talks take place over new £4.6bn tournament

jsp

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From what I’m reading this will be replacing the Champions League.

Clubs will still compete domestically but the CL will become an 18 team league competition.

FIFA are desperate to get the big clubs away from UEFA.
 

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From what I’m reading this will be replacing the Champions League.

Clubs will still compete domestically but the CL will become an 18 team league competition.

FIFA are desperate to get the big clubs away from UEFA.
Of course they will. I wonder how the promotion and relegation from this league would work.
 

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Of course they will. I wonder how the promotion and relegation from this league would work.

Franchise system probably you’ll be invited to join if the 18 members deem you worthy I reckon it’ll be a closed shop as that’s what the owners will want.
 

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American owners who, 10 years ago, could write what they knew about OUR game on the back of their hand, trying to muscle in and reshape OUR game to reflect their own “NFL” model.
I know this has been floating around for a number of years (without American input), but it irritates me, this whole “Americans” know best routine.
Wasn’t it the pompous Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys owner, who tried to reassure English football that Hicks and Gillette knew what they were doing?
We know how that turned out.
Stick to your side of the water...
 

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American owners who, 10 years ago, could write what they knew about OUR game on the back of their hand, trying to muscle in and reshape OUR game to reflect their own “NFL” model.
I know this has been floating around for a number of years (without American input), but it irritates me, this whole “Americans” know best routine.
Wasn’t it the pompous Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys owner, who tried to reassure English football that Hicks and Gillette knew what they were doing?
We know how that turned out.
Stick to your side of the water...

You can see why the model appeals to the European Clubs a closed shop with guaranteed income and full control is exactly what they want and it's what the NFL has. They act for the good of the collective group not for the good of the overall game but obviously they've always had it that way trying to impose that model on existing structures will be tough almost impossible. You basically need to setup rogue leagues that don't operate under any of the existing structures then try to beat your competition into bankruptcy.

The big clubs will always want more money the most aggressive voice in all of this has always been Juventus they are the ones who really seem to have no problem speaking publicly about this sort of stuff.
 

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jsp...
...it will happen, just a matter of when?
I’m not against it at all, just don’t want to see Americans driving it.
And it’s not a club bias, l’d feel the same way if Real had American owners.
You are right about Juve, but all the giants want this.
I’m happy as long as it doesn’t disrupt the European domestic leagues.
And l’d be happier still if it could somehow exclude the involvement of that upstanding organisation we all love...
...FIFA.
Would much prefer UEFA, even if they have embarrassed themselves more than once when trying to enforce ffp.
 

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It's FIFA vs UEFA and nothing else the big clubs will play them off against each other.

FIFA hate that UEFA hold the power in the game through the big European clubs, FIFA only get a sniff of the top stars every 4 years at a world cup they want much better access to the clubs because that is where the money is.

My guess if the clubs would much rather stick to UEFA than jump in with FIFA but if FIFA make promises to them that make them even richer then UEFA will need to match or better those terms.

It's self interest these big clubs don't like the fact that they share the pot with smaller teams, they don't like the fact that big names miss out on CL football every year they don't want new faces at the table they want the same old faces thinking the same old way season after season.

Basically the big clubs believe they generate all the money so they should be setting the rules not these governing bodies so it'll be who cracks first over who they align with when it comes to European competitions.

If you asked fans most of them would say the european cup should be a straight knock out tournament because who really is that bothered about the group games for most big clubs they're a formality. You ask the clubs they actually want more group games because more games mean more money so fans and clubs will never see eye to eye on this.
 

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