Director of Football set to be appointed

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Hopefully this is the start of getting a clear strategy for the future. Fergie and gill did it all themselves but I think they were the last of their type.
 

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Neville was talking in Dublin last week basically said post takeover Woodward ran the business side and Gill handled the football side with Fergie. Post Fergie Woodward has had to take it all on and it hasn’t worked so hopefully they’ve recognised the need to change.

The big problem is appointing a director of football when you already have a manager in place rarely works.

We need to make sure we appoint a director of football who fits the philosophy of what we want Man Utd to be not someone who fits with Mourinho.
 

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If reports are to be believed Jose gave a list of players in that were all 29/30+ and the board said no them all. The flaw in this story is that Jose handed in his list at the end of the season so therefore a compromise would have been reached at some point. Woodward didnt look at Jose's list 2 days before the window closed when it was all too late.

I really can't see Jose happy having someone pick his players. I think this transfer window was the start of the end, the board haven't backed him and now they are bringing in a Director of Football in.
 

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I think it becomes more of a committee the idea is you have a chief exec, director of football and your head coach working together to identify the weaknesses and improve the squad while protecting the club financially. So head coach says I need a better left back who can do this this and this the director of football then gets his scouts to put together a list of players and reports back right these are the ones we think we can get lets agree who we go for. Also, he'd then be working on deals to get rid of the left back we no longer need for the best price possible.

The outs is arguably more of a problem than the ins right now Utd can just throw a bit more money around to get a player in if they really want but getting guys to leave has become a major problem a director of football should help with that.

I don't think for one minute his list was ignored but it sounds like there was very little communication over it a) before it was submitted and b) during the summer.

If a director of football comes in I think Mourinho will be gone within 12 months simply because this is what always seems to happen the director of football will want his guy in charge not someone he inherited.
 
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I seriously doubt a transfer wish list could have been ignored. My take on this window is a large amount of money was put aside for Gareth Bale and had Zidane stayed on we would have signed him. As it was, it never happened and Ronaldo left, so no Bale. I feel right wing is a much bigger problem position than centre back. It seems bizarre to me that we didn't get an upgrade on our fullbacks - although perhaps we are taking a long term view on it and giving Shaw one last chance at left back this season, with Dalot to come through at right back.
Also, Lee O'Connor, Ethan Laird and Brandon Williams are 3 of the best prospects at the club therefore we may have them in mind.

I'm content with our centre back options but can see us bidding for Alderweireld in January - a la Sanchez last year - with 6 months left on his deal his fee should be minimal.

Back to the point of a Director of Football - I do like the idea and it protects our long term interests, but as alluded to here, I can't see Mourinho being pleased. A big factor of Mourinho's success at the clubs he's been at has been the signings he's made - particularly at Inter.
 
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Would be a solid appointment in my eyes. VDS was loved when he was here and has some experience with a similar role at Ajax.

He would fit the criteria of someone we need and we do need someone to just come in and add some stability. Our spending has been erratic at best over previous years so a DOF would be good for us.
 

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I love VDS but his experience at Ajax was in the role of marketing director and subsequently CEO he's not been a DOF I'd love ex players to come back and become part of something but the right players need to be put in the right places. Basically he's been playing the role of Ed Woodward at Ajax.

Considering this is the first person to be given that role and they need to put in place the structure we need someone with a lot of experience in that structure. Our ex chief scout has just joined Zenit as sporting director maybe they should have looked at appointing him but really they need to be puttng big money into attracting someone who's worked at clubs who run this model or even better are doing this role currently.

Get it setup and maybe try to groom an ex player who's retired to take it over if they decide they want to go into that side of things after retirement.
 
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Txiki Begiristain, City’s director of football, works closely with Pep Guardiola and the owners made the appointments knowing their compatibility. All the signings bear Guardiola’s hallmark, similarly at Anfield, where Jürgen Klopp shapes recruitment strategy with Michael Edwards, the sporting director.

Significantly, all of these heavyweight conduits possess a footballing background; Begiristain most eye-catchingly with Real Sociedad, Barcelona and Spain and even Edwards as a reserve at Peterborough United before excelling at scouting with Portsmouth, Tottenham Hotspur and Liverpool. Mike Gordon, the Fenway Sports Group president, plays an important role in negotiating and closing deals at Liverpool. “We like working together — Mike Gordon, Michael Edwards and myself,” Klopp told the Liverpool Echo. “It’s a really healthy relationship.” United lack that.
That's from Henry Winter's latest article on The Times website.

City's is a big name but Liverpool's has arguably done a better job. I've seen a lot of people say Monchi from Roma, and he's got a big reputation but he spent a long time at Sevilla and has only just joined Roma, he's a loyal man and I can't see him coming.

Personally i'd like to see someone with connections to the club. Edwin may do the job of Woodward at Ajax but he's a football man and knows the club well. We've lost our identity as a club, we've sold out, become too big. We need someone who will restore those traditions. Youth, attacking football, "we make stars, we don't buy them", the list of things goes on and on. At the moment, we have different types of managers coming in; not really sure what Moyes is, Van Gaal was possession, Mourinho hasn't been as defensive as some say but he's a pragmatist and not attacking. A sporting director needs to set the philosophy and recruit managers and players that fit. It doesn't have to be a big name.
 
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Mostly guessing here but I believe that it won’t just be the one person coming in, there will be a restructure in how the football side of the club is run, much like how the academy was restructured a couple of years ago. The training ground is currently undergoing work but once completed... Sporting director, a head of recruitment and other various positions will be filled. The board has recognised a need to modernise the club, some very interesting developments likely to come in the next 12 months.

Mourinho comments the other night suggest he knows about these plans and I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a 4th year regardless of how this year goes while a succession plan is formed by these people and the board. And perhaps the whole point of giving him a 4th year was possibly due to the need for stability during these changes.
 
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