Brandon Williams | Match Discussion thread 2019/20

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Europa League: AZ Alkmaar 0-0 Manchester United - 3rd October 2019

The lad did OK.
 

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I didn't see the game but hopefully he gets some more chances in Europa League.

For me the left back spot is a spot that's up for grabs I think Shaw has shown he can't be relied on to stay fit and also perform at a high level consistently he's the same player now that he was when he arrive 5 years ago.

Nicky Butt has a new role at the club which is supposed to be planning routes for academy players into the first team and a big part of that will be finding the right clubs to loan our players to.

The top academy lads should not be playing more than 1 year of U23 football before being loaned out then hopefully integrated into the first team when they are good enough. The jump from U23 to first team is to big it's almost pointless judging players on what they do in U23 football. People mock that Chelsea loan army but it has proven it works.

You might get the odd one who doesn't need the loan stage for example Greenwood looks like he might be good enough at 18 to be a premier league player.
 

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Still raw and can be very rash but does have the tools to be a very good left back. It’s all about how he develops in the next few years. A loan move would probably be good for him because don’t think he would dislodge Shaw right now. A Championship level loan move would be correct, he’s already proven he is very good at U23’s so why not get him out on loan and let him develop for a year.
 

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Europa League: Partizan Belgrade 0-1 Manchester United - 24th October 2019

The lad played well.
 

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Thought he was MOTM for sure. He was impressive both defensively and offensively and his run for the penalty was fearless, kind of what Shaw was like in his early days. He’s really developing at pace.
 

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League Cup: Chelsea 1-2 Manchester United - 30th October 2019

Made the odd little error but you can see the talent is there. He’s tenacious, got some pace and will continue to develop. Can see him having a top career here.

The likes of McTominay, James and Williams are really showing how Ole wants to play it this season. Young and hungry players who embody the spirit of the club.
 

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Would you play him ahead of Young in the league games now?

I’d probably keep him on the midweek rotation until the next international break but I think he’s putting serious pressure on Young now.

Not sure how I feel about a right footed left back though you need your full backs to stay wide unless you’ve got a touchline hugging winger.
 

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Yeah as much as it pains me to say it I still think Young should be ahead of him in the league. I would keep him in for the cup games and the odd league game. However, he is breathing down Young’s neck.

Like you jsp I’m not sure how I feel about him being right footed on the left because I feel you need that natural width. Saying that though in reserve games he’s not afraid to push to the byline with his left.
 

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I’d have Williams ahead of Young. I’d have almost anyone ahead of Young at the moment. In a 3-5-2 he’s better but the annoying cut back hit the first man or past the last post routing is done for me.
 

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I think the ideal thing is for Shaw to be back ASAP and then Williams be an understudy. Young can be the understudy at right back and general fill in squad player.
 

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Would you play him ahead of Young in the league games now?
Without doubt. Young is terrible and for me LB is the kind of position you can play a youngster especially alongside an experienced player in Maguire.
 

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I think the ideal thing is for Shaw to be back ASAP and then Williams be an understudy. Young can be the understudy at right back and general fill in squad player.
I think we need to revise this and say Williams is first choice for league games, with Young (and Shaw if he ever leaves his sickbed) for domestic cups and Europa League. He has shown he is the best LB we have and I see no reason why others should play ahead of him.
 

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Yes he did. This is one we need to see more of. Williams for young will not weaken the team but it could strengthen it significantly. Ultimately saving us money to spend in more urgent positions. I think young is suspended for the next game so hopefully he will do well and keep the position
 

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Premier League: Manchester United 3-1 Brighton & Hove Albion - 10th November 2019

How did he play?
 

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If Young starts the next game after this performance then I’m done. He was of course naive at times but he’s shown more in the last couple of games he’s played than Young has for many a month. Young has been a good servant but Williams is the man alongside Shaw now.
 

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I think the club have done it the right way easing him in slowly with the games getting slightly harder each time.

See no reason why you wouldn't consider him the first choice now.

Shaw when he gets fit will have to earn his place back.

My only issue with Williams is width with him being naturally right footed does he make us narrow going forward
 

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I mean he's a professional footballer I'd hope he can kick with his left but can he put in quality crosses with his left foot and be comfortable delivering the final ball with it?

You look at the quality guys like Robertson & Mendy deliver the modern full back in basically expected to cross the ball to the standard you used to expect from a winger.
 

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Ok I will put it another way. I have seen him in tha academy and u23s and he has always been comfortable crossing with his left.
 

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