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    Penalty v Everton

    Mr C and JSP - If you could just grasp this one thing your minds would be so much clearer on this.... THE AMOUNT OF CONTACT THE TACKLER MAKES ON THE BALL IS IRRELEVANT! IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO HOW LEGAL ANY TACKLE IS OR ISN'T. HAVE YOU UNDERSTOOD THIS YET ?
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    Penalty v Everton

    Paramedics! :eek:
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    Penalty v Everton

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    Penalty v Everton

    Nonsense! You are clutching at straws and have confused two things that don't belong together. Why do I say this? Because Moore's tackle was not a foul then and would not be a foul now. Your point is only relevant if you actually think that the game has changed in such a way that Moore's...
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    Penalty v Everton

    One last try then. Here are some examples of some great , classic tackles (which are obviously not fouls). Pay special attention to the Bobby Moore tackle v Brazil on around 30 seconds. It has a lot of similarities with the Gueye tackle. The Brazil player goes down and has his progress impeded...
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    Penalty v Everton

    You are right , its talking about fouls for which free kicks and penalties are given but it's not talking about tackling. I'm not sure where the specific rule is for tackling and challenging for the ball but what I do know is that its perfectly legal to tackle a player and get the ball , and...
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    Penalty v Everton

    ...and in this case its neither because Martial wasn't even close to being injured , nor were studs high , and there was no lunge or two footed movement , and he didn't leave the ground. There was nothing dangerous about that tackle other than the fact that Martial fell over (he got up straight...
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    Penalty v Everton

    In I'm not sure you deserve a reward yet. In order to get your reward this thread will have to go to VAR first then maybe a panel . LOL
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    Penalty v Everton

    Please try and understand that it's not about what you or I "think" , it's about the rules of the game. What you feel about "slight" touches or some possible intent on the part of Gueye is just irrelevant. What you have also forgotten is that with penalties you have to be sure. The benefit of...
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    Penalty v Everton

    For once I totally agree with you. :) It wasn't reckless and he got the ball. It is as simple as that.
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    Penalty v Everton

    Try this one. Old Trafford v Liverpool. Mo Salah is through on goal. He half goes round De Gea , but De Gea stretches out and gets his finger tips on the ball deflecting it a few inches. A split second later the ball ricochets from De Gea's glove on to Salah's boot and the ball goes further...
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    Penalty v Everton

    1) No he couldn't. It's almost impossible to make that tackle without making contact. Most tackles are like that. 2) The ref should not have seen that as careless because studs were not up. He didn't go in high or from behind or even lunging or two footed. He didn't even go to ground. Martial...
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    Penalty v Everton

    Now that's the only possible argument one could make for a penalty. At least that makes sense. However , there's a big problem with it. That theory would require a second movement from Gueye. Gueye makes one movement towards the ball and makes contact with the ball. If in the process of that...
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    Penalty v Everton

    But that's the whole point. It does overrule it and I can tell you why. There is absolutely nothing in the rules that says anything about whether the ball contact is minimal or strong. How much he gets on the ball is therefore irrelevant because it would be in the rules if it was. This minimal...
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    Penalty v Everton

    What I'm trying to get is why people would even consider it to be a penalty. I was a defender years ago. I was crap but if I saw an opportunity to get to the ball I would take it. If I got the ball first (then man) and didn't hurt the player or go in high or dangerously or from behind then I had...
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