Sideshow Bob
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Neville’s comments in the video are spot on. It’s pretty much the crux of the issue for me.
How many world class performances have u seen this season?We do lack cohesion as a team and sometimes we look like we’ve just been thrown together on the team bus.
We still rely heavily on individual brilliance, but I guess to a degree a lot of games are won on this brilliance by most sides. However if you look at City they play as a team for 90 mins and the individual brilliance will always come because of their quality.
Neville is absolutely spot on. Also his analogy that we are an odd bunch continues to be apt. We are a very strange team, one week we can be brilliant and produce a world class performance, then we have the performance against Villa. An odd bunch indeed!
I didn’t specifically mean this season but in general under Ole.How many world class performances have u seen this season?
I wish Gary especially, but Rio and Scholesy as well, would keep their thoughts on United to themselves at times. It doesn't help anybody.
Gotta disagree comrade. They have a far more invested interest in MUFC than the rest of us. They've been out there and spilled blood, sweated and teared for the club we love.I wish Gary especially, but Rio and Scholesy as well, would keep their thoughts on United to themselves at times. It doesn't help anybody.
They're paid to offer their opinion and it's vital they are honest about how they see it.
They've all given Ole plenty of support in the early days but now they have to start being as tough on him as they were on the other managers.
Gotta disagree comrade. They have a far more invested interest in MUFC than the rest of us. They've been out there and spilled blood, sweated and teared for the club we love.
They have far more right than anyone to let their feelings be known!
Other Managers in Moyes, van Gaal et al, or Managers in general??
Both they're pundits they're paid to offer their opinion on how things are going they're all very careful about calling for a managers head but they have to be critical when things aren't going well. The thing that often comes through more Scholes/Rio is their passion/bias from the club (I think Neville has learned to keep that under control) they hate watching Utd lose and look poor so when they are watching games that Utd are bad in they let it out.
They will probably go bigger on opinions about Utd than they would other clubs that they didn't play for equally they lavish them with praise when they are good it goes both ways with these guys.
If they're just going to say nice things when Utd are being rubbish then no one will want to listen to what they are saying anyway we want them to offer something we either don't know or can't see when we are watching the match.
Again, how many?I didn’t specifically mean this season but in general under Ole.
To be honest I listen to very little pre/post match comments from the so called experts when it comes to United matches and it's easy to take comments out of context when it's flagged up later on the various forums/twitter, but at times it feels like oh ffs here we go again, almost as though they are protecting their legacy by suggesting things need to change and as we all know it's easier to change the Manager than a raft of players. For Ole with friends like Nev, Rio and Scholesy who needs enemies.
Here here comradeSo called experts with how many games and trophies between them? Who is more qualified to judge than those who’ve actually done it and know what it takes.
They’ve been very kind to him because of who he is but like the fans they now want to see results and performances that suggest we are title contenders.
So called experts with how many games and trophies between them? Who is more qualified to judge than those who’ve actually done it and know what it takes.
They’ve been very kind to him because of who he is but like the fans they now want to see results and performances that suggest we are title contenders.
The fan base is not divided, yes it is, no it's notBetween them they've suggested player A, C, E, G, H, J, N, Q and V aren't up to Manchester United standard, the Manager is a nice lad but out of his depth and tactically naïve yet expect us to be challenging for the Title, interesting. And we wonder why the fan base is divided.
So called experts with how many games and trophies between them? Who is more qualified to judge than those who’ve actually done it and know what it takes.
They’ve been very kind to him because of who he is but like the fans they now want to see results and performances that suggest we are title contenders.
I can't get on board that being a great player makes you an expert analyst. As evidence for this argument I'm going to put forward Michael Owen.
Paul Scholes is terrible.
I like Rio he's animated about everything. We are either gonna do the treble or get relegated he doesn't have any middle ground.
Also in the terrible, Jamie Redknapp, keown is awful, Murphy
Mind you, it would be easier for me to name the ones I do like.
The only one I like, everyone else hates
The point is what qualifies you to be an expert in this field when it's a game of opinions? These lads know the club and they know what it takes to win so I think you have to respect their opinion they aren't dealing in some sort of science it's a game of football. The only thing I'd say is these lads don't know what it's like to be in the club in the position it is now which is clawing back to the top they never fell this far as Utd players and had to make it back.
To be fair to Owen I caught his comments in the post game bits on BT and couldn't really argue with any of it he was an awful pundit when he started but I think he's got a lot better at it.
Rio is just like he was as a player heart on his sleeve he's super competitive I'd hate to be around him when he loses.
I like Neville, Henry, Carragher who actually analyse the game and tactics. With Scholes it's more 'well we would have done better, this is rubbish' whereas Neville analyses where it's going wrong and what it is they aren't doing right.
I think Scholes just says what he sees. Can't blame him for not being very positive.
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