Have we scored directly from a corner this season I don't seem to recall anything?you can only assume it looks good on the training ground and then it goes to pieces on the pitch. Set pieces at both ends need changing.
We did stick with them but only because they wasted a host of chances but we have to sort are penalty area out, it looks awful on tv, off to the match on Wednesday I'm interested to see first hand how we deal with the physical situation Burnley will put us under
Have we scored directly from a corner this season I don't seem to recall anything?
That was Keane's point don't know how carragher couldn't see it I seem to recall himCL was always going to be a struggle this year, he needs a good couple of windows and next season. If no progress then he may have to go. We can't jsut keep sacking managers. They need time. Klopp, Pep, Fergie, all had time.
I thought I'd heard it somewhereI imagine there are more failure stories of proven managers than unproven.
It doesn't wash with me, the only proof will be this time next year. Other talk is hyperbole. I'm not 100% on Ole either, but to just spout off without him having a chance is nonsense.
Shankly - managed small clubs
Paisly - no managerial experience
Fagin - no experience
Daglish - no experience
Souness - Rangers only
Evans - none
Houlier - was a gamble really
Benetez - had a good CV
the rest are a mixed bag.
It's easy to sit there and give it the large while you're doing ok for 18 months or whatever. Slagging off rivals is embarassing. Especially when the manager hasn't had a fair chance and the only decent players he has are injured.
I found an article where he condemns Klopp for being too attacking, now listen to him. I'm pretty sure I remember him talking about Klopp not doing enough and they might have to get rid of him too.
This is why I hate Liverpool more than any club, no class.
I know I’m changing the subject from what you said and it’s probably been covered eles where but what souness said “if Man Utd came here with there best 11 and played there best game they might get a draw here” comment just rubs me up the wrong way , he was very cocky it’s the only time I remember him this cocky because he knows they will have the league , I can’t stand the man , just wanted to say it on here somewhereI think Carragher's point was more an over arching point of how have Utd let themselves get into the situation where Ole is even getting that job in the first place. I think his intention was probably to try and get Keane to attack the owners as Carragher has been pretty out spoken about the ownership mess my guess is he was trying to get Keane to go down that road but Keane used it as a reason to stick up for his mate Ole. I think Carragher was basically saying Utd keep lowering the standards and expectations whereas for years Utd always wanted the best be that players, managers, commercial people etc.
I do still think CL qualification had to be the target this season Utd are on course for their lowest points total post Fergie we will probably end up with less that 60 points this season last season we got just under 70 did people really expect us to end this season with less points than we did last season?
Me to but I have to say carragher is far worse is voice really gets to me the most its like hes talking with a mouth full of spit & talk about spitting he shouldn't even have a job with sky the dirty crettinI know I’m changing the subject from what you said and it’s probably been covered eles where but what souness said “if Man Utd came here with there best 11 and played there best game they might get a draw here” comment just rubs me up the wrong way , he was very cocky it’s the only time I remember him this cocky because he knows they will have the league , I can’t stand the man , just wanted to say it on here somewhere
Carragher can jump on the band wagon all he want but he has never won a league and never will but this will be the closest feeling to it for him , he’s views are irrelevant if he was tht good why isn’t he a manager?Me to but I have to say carragher is far worse is voice really gets to me the most its like hes talking with a mouth full of spit & talk about spitting he shouldn't even have a job with sky the dirty crettin
How he has a job is beyond meSouness is a very bitter man and I don’t rate him as a pundit at all but there are so many around. To be honest the standard of punditry on Sky especially for the big games is pretty awful.
Chris Sutton and Alan Shearer are also very insufferable especially when it comes to analysing United.
If you ever read Charlie Nicholson's predictions he hardly ever goes for a United win!Souness is a very bitter man and I don’t rate him as a pundit at all but there are so many around. To be honest the standard of punditry on Sky especially for the big games is pretty awful.
Chris Sutton and Alan Shearer are also very insufferable especially when it comes to analysing United.
Correct and hes a toffeeCarragher can jump on the band wagon all he want but he has never won a league and never will but this will be the closest feeling to it for him , he’s views are irrelevant if he was tht good why isn’t he a manager?
I know I’m changing the subject from what you said and it’s probably been covered eles where but what souness said “if Man Utd came here with there best 11 and played there best game they might get a draw here” comment just rubs me up the wrong way , he was very cocky it’s the only time I remember him this cocky because he knows they will have the league , I can’t stand the man , just wanted to say it on here somewhere
I always think that every week he has united to lose , Liverpool to drop points and arsenal to win I prefer Paul Merson last seasonIf you ever read Charlie Nicholson's predictions he hardly ever goes for a United win!
I think it just hurts because it’s true Souness and Carra have been equally as scathing about Liverpool in the past when their results have been poor.
If there’s a time to be cocky it’s when your 20 points clear in January and haven’t lost all season they’ve earned the right to shove it down everyone’s throat. God knows we enjoyed doing it to them through the 90s, 00s and 10s.
I mean our manager is saying some mad crap at the moment that makes us look pathetic and while I haven’t yet reached full ole out mode it’s starting to get harder and harder to defend.
What's happened to merson?I always think that every week he has united to lose , Liverpool to drop points and arsenal to win I prefer Paul Merson last season
He said he had mental health issues the other day maybe that’s why he stopped ,Burnley tonight let’s make up some ground on Chelsea!What's happened to merson?
I hear people saying they are ole out because he can’t even get the Fernandes deal done but he’s not the one phoning them up bidding it’s Woodward, Ole only gives Woodward a list. Even though I’m not convinced by ole if a new manager did come in he would have to have oles morals with the club.
I think he predictsWhat's happened to merson?
i really want ole to do good but watching us this season has been painful we never dominate a team we’re always on our nerves and this defences not going to improve we’ve got this back 5 for a while and we’re still conceding goals like we’ve just conceded against Burnley championship defending at bestThink the truth is we don't really know how all this works but Ed gave and interview to UWS recently which basically suggested.
Ole says what he wants in terms of position and type of player the scouts go out and come back with reports on what is potentially available they then create a shortlist from all the players the club has been watching and start making enquiries into whether or not they'd be open to the move. They also start looking into the players background try and get some idea of what sort of character he is. Once they decide to make a move Matt Judge then seems to be the one who leads the negotiations with other clubs but he's obviously given parameters to work within by Woodward if Judge has to go above that limit he needs to get Woodward's approval and he may even have to get Glazer's to sign it off.
The whole process feels very long and you can see why Utd don't move quickly in negotiations it doesn't feel like a club that make quick decisions.
You'd hope a good director of football would help stream line this as he or she would likely know the sort of figures required to make a deal and a good director of football might also help shift some of the deadwood out.
Blaming Ole for the quality of the squad is harsh he's not had anywhere near the time to fix that problem really we should be judging Ole on what he can do with that squad. I think that squad can finish in the top 4 it obviously can't win the league so really that's the benchmark he should be judged by at the end of the season. He's had some horrible luck with injuries this season but that's part of the game you have to manage that but I also think he has to accept there's tactical problems he hasn't solved and recently he's said some silly things in the press that won't go down with fans.
The battle between fans and owners leave him in a sticky situation as he needs to play both sides of that game and keep both on his side but again top managers have to do that and it's part of the job.
I do think as a club we are setup to fail on the pitch that is because the top of the club isn't 100% committed to win at all costs which is what our rivals are focusing on doing that means any manager who comes in will struggle.
i really want ole to do good but watching us this season has been painful we never dominate a team we’re always on our nerves and this defences not going to improve we’ve got this back 5 for a while and we’re still conceding goals like we’ve just conceded against Burnley championship defending at best
This is as low as we have been maybe it’s time to pre sign poch even though he won’t guarantee nothing he will set us up better .I think we all want him to succeed but the evidence for why you should expect him to achieve is weak.
We just aren’t getting better at set pieces Maguire who is supposed to be our main guy totally switched off which isn’t good but the attackers have missed 3 great chances.
As for the set piece issue they either can’t learn or they aren’t being taught properly because the mistakes keep happening.
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