Gyliano van Velzen

[g@mb!t]

Seems we've signed him from Ajax, He's a winger.
Read about him about 2-3 weeks ago, but the rumors dies, just saw this on twitter, looks like he's signed with us.
Remember reading in an Ajax forum, the fans weren't too worried about him leaving them though!

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost ... tcount=432

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moha
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Re: Fergie's Fledglings - Youth, Loans and Reserves 2010/11 [R]
Gyliano van Velzen on his twitter;

RT @gyliano11: I'm sitting now in the bus with my team Manchester United under 18.

I've told you!
Last edited by moha; Today at 09:16 AM.

[JSNFRMN_MUFC]

I remember this last month, something was written on Facebook in Dutch or something saying he'd joined us. Ajax's youth academy is incredible. He's probably good, lets face it, we wouldn't have signed him if he wasn't.

[Jorgefoo]

I've seen some videos and he looks good.

[JSNFRMN_MUFC]

He was 14 here. He looks massive. Good skill and strength.

[youtube:2uc91bu0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KcHtVv8fKA[/youtube:2uc91bu0]

[g@mb!t]

he just became 16 i thiunk, and yeah he had tweeted about a month ago that he had just landed in manchester and that he was on his way for his medical, but since then its been all silent!

[g@mb!t]

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... B:official

Van Velzen (16) to United
By Eline , August 20, 2010 6:36 p.m. , , Source: Ajax Showtime | Wed 50 euro free games

Youth Player Gyliano van Velzen (16) was conspicuously absent the past few weeks with Ajax B1. Finally there is clarity about the Ajax youth international, he goes immediately to Manchester United. The left winger played for Ajax from the C2.

Gyliano van Velzen, born April 14, 1994, came in 2007 from Stanford to the youth of Ajax. He played in the Ajax youth teams C2, C1 Ajax, Ajax B2 and this year he would begin in the B1. Last season he did a few times along with the B1 and played in the Dutch national team under 16 years.

Ajax is not happy with the departure of Van Velzen and probably a lawsuit sue Manchester United to FIFA or UEFA. The Amsterdam club believes that Manchester United Van Velzen and his parents a house in Manchester has offered and that Van Velzen for that reason (relocation) to the English club to play football. (Photo: AZjeugd.nl)

A Left WInger, Academy does lack wingers, especially with Robbie Brady now moving up to reserves

[g@mb!t]

Just saw the team news on twitter, Lingard seems too small and light weight to me, he's quick and versatile, been played up front and in midfield too...i doubt he'll make it, hasn't got many chances though..lets see this season

[JSNFRMN_MUFC]

3-2 win after being 2-0 down. The U18s have definitely got that United mentality of never say die.

[Jorgefoo]

McGinty, Michael Keane and Cofie with goals.

[Jorgefoo]

Here we go again. Same old story

Manchester United are facing the possibility of an official complaint from Ajax after persuading one of the brightest prospects in Dutch football to move to England.

Gyliano van Velzen, a Dutch under-16 international, has turned his back on Ajax's famed youth academy and agreed terms at Old Trafford in a deal that has incensed the Amsterdam club.

Van Velzen, a tall, left-sided midfielder, initially informed Ajax in March that he had received an offer to move to Manchester, but the teenager was dissuaded from going through with the move and decided to stay with the 'B1' under-17s' team.

The issue seemed to be resolved until Van Velzen returned to Ajax a few weeks ago and informed them that his parents had decided they wanted to move to England to start a new life. The family, it emerged, had been offered a house in the Manchester area and Van Velzen, affiliated to Ajax since the age of 13, arrived towards the end of last week.

Ajax, renowned for producing so many outstanding Dutch footballers, are said to be "surprised and disappointed." They have written to United's chief executive, David Gill, asking for compensation and, if they are not satisfied with the response, they will look at other options.

One report in Holland has claimed they will file a lawsuit via Fifa, although it is understood they would rather settle the matter without having to take legal action.

The dispute bears similarities to the Paul Pogba case last year when Le Havre complained to Fifa that the 17-year-old had been illegally poached from their academy only for the organisation to rule in United's favour. After eight months of wrangling over compensation, the two clubs finally reached an undisclosed settlement in June.

A spokesman for United said that Van Velzen had been signed in full accordance with Fifa regulations. Their argument is that the player had never signed professional terms and, as such, was on the market. United asked Ajax on a number of occasions to provide evidence of a contract without one being produced

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... van-velzen

[S.E.Arising]

Exactly Jorge, same old story. The Pogba issue all over again. We'll probably have to pay Ajax a settlement. Have we broken any rules?

[g@mb!t]

As per the spokesperson we haven't but i don't think we can believe what he says, Ajax asking for Settlement seems positive, better than Le Havre who went ballistic from day 1!!

[JSNFRMN_MUFC]

There aren't any rules over signing European youngsters at the moment. It's up to the player where they want to be.

[JSNFRMN_MUFC]

Massive isn't he. He's 16 now, wonder if he's grown... still growing... Bebe and this kid on the wing in a few years, it'll be like watching Rugby. Two Jonah Lomu's running down the wing.

[g@mb!t]

I don't like really tall wingers, they seem awkward when they run!
Prefer shorter guys, like RIbery, shorter guys are more agile and turn quicker i think??

[JSNFRMN_MUFC]

He is only 14 in the video, 14 year olds don't run like professionals. Even 18 year olds.

[g@mb!t]

i was saying considering Obertan actually, not many tall wingers really make it, do they? can't remember many actually..

[JSNFRMN_MUFC]

Ronaldo was pretty tall. Suppose you could class him as a Striker aswell though. I still believe the reason Tosic didn't make it was because he was so short.

[g@mb!t]

i think Tosic's main weakness was his build, wish he was given a chance.

I hope Bebe doesn't end up the same!

[JSNFRMN_MUFC]

Giggs isn't exactly short. Beckham neither. I think the reason Van Velzen looks so tall is because the others are so short in the video.

[g@mb!t]

i meant in comparison to people like Van Velzen and Obertan, their height seems normal..didn't mean you have to be short to be good... Van Velzen is almost 6' 1" already!!

[g@mb!t]

seems he didn't have a contract with Ajax, so they don't have much of a case against us

[Dillip_purple]

Van Velzen Outstanding From Wot His Videos Saying. But Left Footy. Dribbling. Get Past Defenders. He Has A Chance At OT After Sir Ryan Giggs. But I Can Say It Will Be Like Paul Pogba Case. But Velzen Hasnt Any Contact With Ajax Now. This Is A Positive To Snap Him. But All It Is Ajax Who Has Player's Loyality. So It Will Be Interesting.

[g@mb!t]

http://www.tribalfootball.com/gyliano-v ... ed-1117281

Gyliano van Velzen has enjoyed his first few weeks with Manchester United.

The Dutch teen was a controversial summer signing from Ajax and is currently playing for United's U16s.

"When I heard that in all the newspapers they were writing about me, I was very surprised," said Van Velzen.

"But these things do not keep me busy, I prefer to focus on my football.

"I always wanted to play for Manchester United. I came here with my eyes wide open, but I didn't realise how big a club it is."

http://www.tribalfootball.com/gyliano-v ... rs-1117461

Dutch whizkid Gyliano van Velzen says he's found his move to Manchester United a step up from what he was used to in Holland.

The 16 year-old midfielder signed for United during the summer from Ajax.

"There is really a family atmosphere. At lunch you can see that the big stars sit at the table of the youth players and talk with us. Everyone wants to help each other," revealed Van Velzen.

"The training is a lot heavier than I was used to at Ajax. In the beginning I had to put in a lot of effort to keep up. Fortunately, now I am better. I am satisfied with my teammates.

"They are guys who give you a compliment when you do it right, but they put you in your place when you do something wrong."

[JSNFRMN_MUFC]

I think he'll be involved this season for the U18s. Would like to see some newer video of him. He looked good when he was 14, wonder what he's like 2 years on.